From: "Singhai, Anjali" <anjali.singhai@intel.com>
To: "John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
Cc: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>, Jesse Gross <jesse@kernel.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Kiran Patil <kiran.patil@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/6] net: Generalize udp based tunnel offload
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:40:22 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <565E3DF6.4050609@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151201160841.GG29497@tuxdriver.com>
On 12/1/2015 8:08 AM, John W. Linville wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 04:49:28PM +0100, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015, at 16:44, John W. Linville wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 09:26:51PM -0800, Tom Herbert wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Jesse Gross <jesse@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>> Based on what we can do today, I see only two real choices: do some
>>>>> refactoring to clean up the stack a bit or remove the existing VXLAN
>>>>> offloading altogether. I think this series is trying to do the former
>>>>> and the result is that the stack is cleaner after than before. That
>>>>> seems like a good thing.
>>>> There is a third choice which is to do nothing. Creating an
>>>> infrastructure that claims to "Generalize udp based tunnel offload"
>>>> but actually doesn't generalize the mechanism is nothing more than
>>>> window dressing-- this does nothing to help with the VXLAN to
>>>> VXLAN-GPE transition for instance. If geneve specific offload is
>>>> really needed now then that can be should with another ndo function,
>>>> or alternatively ntuple filter with a device specific action would at
>>>> least get the stack out of needing to be concerned with that.
>>>> Regardless, we will work optimize the rest of the stack for devices
>>>> that implement protocol agnostic mechanisms.
>>> Is there no concern about NDO proliferation? Does the size of the
>>> netdev_ops structure matter? Beyond that, I can see how a single
>>> entry point with an enum specifying the offload type isn't really any
>>> different in the grand scheme of things than having multiple NDOs,
>>> one per offload.
>>>
>>> Given the need to live with existing hardware offloads, I would lean
>>> toward a consolidated NDO. But if a different NDO per tunnel type is
>>> preferred, I can be satisified with that.
>> Having per-offloading NDOs helps the stack to gather further information
>> what kind of offloads the driver has even maybe without trying to call
>> down into the layer (just by comparing to NULL). Checking this inside
>> the driver offload function clearly does not have this feature. So we
>> finally can have "ip tunnel please-recommend-type" feature. :)
> That is a valuable insight! Maybe the per-offload NDO isn't such a
> bad idea afterall... :-)
>
> John
This helps me understand why having a separate ndo op might still be ok.
Thanks for the feedback. I will go back to that model. Also I think I
did finally understand the discussion on using a single 2's compliment
checksum method
for future silicon.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-02 0:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-23 21:02 [PATCH 0/6] Generalize udp based tunnels and add geneve offload Anjali Singhai Jain
2015-11-23 21:02 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] net: Generalize udp based tunnel offload Anjali Singhai Jain
2015-11-23 20:57 ` kbuild test robot
2015-11-23 20:58 ` kbuild test robot
2015-11-23 21:53 ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-23 22:49 ` Jesse Gross
2015-11-24 0:32 ` Singhai, Anjali
2015-11-24 0:38 ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-24 1:11 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2015-11-24 17:32 ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-24 17:43 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-24 17:52 ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-24 18:16 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-24 18:37 ` David Miller
2015-11-24 18:42 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-24 18:43 ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-30 3:22 ` David Miller
2015-11-30 21:42 ` Singhai, Anjali
2015-11-30 21:48 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-01 3:51 ` David Miller
2015-12-01 3:48 ` David Miller
2015-12-01 6:33 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-30 3:21 ` David Miller
2015-11-30 21:33 ` Singhai, Anjali
2015-12-01 0:25 ` Jesse Gross
2015-12-01 1:02 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-01 1:28 ` Jesse Gross
2015-12-01 5:26 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-01 15:44 ` John W. Linville
2015-12-01 15:49 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-01 16:08 ` John W. Linville
2015-12-02 0:40 ` Singhai, Anjali [this message]
2015-12-02 3:50 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-02 16:35 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-02 19:15 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-02 23:35 ` John Fastabend
2015-12-03 0:15 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-08 7:33 ` John Fastabend
2015-12-08 14:23 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-12-08 15:10 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-12-09 1:40 ` Thomas Graf
2015-12-09 5:45 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-12-09 12:58 ` Thomas Graf
2015-12-09 17:38 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-12-09 20:03 ` David Miller
2015-12-09 22:03 ` Thomas Graf
2015-12-09 22:21 ` David Miller
2015-12-09 22:25 ` Thomas Graf
2015-12-03 2:08 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-12-03 15:59 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-03 16:35 ` Andreas Schultz
2015-12-03 16:43 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-04 18:28 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-04 19:54 ` John Fastabend
2015-12-04 19:59 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-04 20:02 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-04 20:06 ` David Miller
2015-12-04 20:13 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-04 21:37 ` David Miller
2015-12-04 20:26 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-04 20:43 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-04 21:11 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-12-04 20:44 ` Jesse Gross
2015-12-04 22:44 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-05 0:53 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-05 5:45 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-05 6:49 ` David Miller
2015-12-05 8:24 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-05 17:53 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-05 19:34 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-05 18:03 ` David Miller
2015-12-05 19:34 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-05 22:27 ` David Miller
2015-12-06 2:13 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-06 16:31 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-06 18:44 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-06 21:30 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-07 1:20 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-07 3:02 ` David Ahern
2015-12-07 16:20 ` Jesse Gross
2015-12-05 4:50 ` David Miller
2015-12-05 6:50 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-24 5:41 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-30 16:35 ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-30 21:53 ` Singhai, Anjali
2015-12-01 3:52 ` David Miller
2015-11-23 21:02 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] net: Add a generic udp_offload_get_port function Anjali Singhai Jain
2015-11-24 6:08 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-24 6:37 ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-24 19:35 ` Singhai, Anjali
2015-11-23 21:02 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] i40e: Generalize the flow for udp based tunnels Anjali Singhai Jain
2015-11-23 21:02 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] i40e: Remove CONFIG_I40E_VXLAN Anjali Singhai Jain
2015-11-23 21:02 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] net: Refactor udp_offload and add Geneve port offload support Anjali Singhai Jain
2015-11-23 21:02 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] i40e:Add geneve tunnel " Anjali Singhai Jain
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