netdev.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Lan, Tianyu" <tianyu.lan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alexander Duyck
	<alexander.duyck-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Dong,
	Eddie" <eddie.dong-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"a.motakis-lrHrjnjw1UfHK3s98zE1ajGjJy/sRE9J@public.gmane.org"
	<a.motakis-lrHrjnjw1UfHK3s98zE1ajGjJy/sRE9J@public.gmane.org>,
	Alex Williamson
	<alex.williamson-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"b.reynal-lrHrjnjw1UfHK3s98zE1ajGjJy/sRE9J@public.gmane.org"
	<b.reynal-lrHrjnjw1UfHK3s98zE1ajGjJy/sRE9J@public.gmane.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Wyborny,
	Carolyn"
	<carolyn.wyborny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Skidmore,
	Donald C"
	<donald.c.skidmore-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Jani,
	Nrupal" <nrupal.jani-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	"kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"qemu-devel-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org"
	<qemu-devel-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"Tantilov,
	Emil S" <emil.s.tantilov-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Rustad,
	Mark D" <mark.d.rustad-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	intel-wired-lan
	<intel-wired-lan-qjLDD68F18P21nG7glBr7A@public.gmane.org>,
	"Kirsher,
	Jeffrey T"
	<jeffrey.t.kirsher-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>, "
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 0/3] IXGBE/VFIO: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 19:19:15 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56680E33.6040204@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151209122831-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On 12/9/2015 6:37 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 12:32:00AM +0800, Lan, Tianyu wrote:
>> Hi Michael & Alexander:
>> Thanks a lot for your comments and suggestions.
>
> It's nice that it's appreciated, but you then go on and ignore
> all that I have written here:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org/msg123826.html
>

No, I will reply it separately and according your suggestion to snip it 
into 3 thread.

>> We still need to support Windows guest for migration and this is why our
>> patches keep all changes in the driver since it's impossible to change
>> Windows kernel.
>
> This is not a reasonable argument.  It makes no sense to duplicate code
> on Linux because you must duplicate code on Windows.  Let's assume you
> must do it in the driver on windows because windows has closed source
> drivers.  What does it matter? Linux can still do it as part of DMA API
> and have it apply to all drivers.
>

Sure. Duplicated code should be encapsulated and make it able to reuse
by other drivers. Just like you said the dummy write part.

I meant the framework should not require to change Windows kernel code
(such as PM core or PCI bus driver)and this will block implementation on
the Windows.

I think it's not problem to duplicate code in the Windows drivers.

>> Following is my idea to do DMA tracking.
>>
>> Inject event to VF driver after memory iterate stage
>> and before stop VCPU and then VF driver marks dirty all
>> using DMA memory. The new allocated pages also need to
>> be marked dirty before stopping VCPU. All dirty memory
>> in this time slot will be migrated until stop-and-copy
>> stage. We also need to make sure to disable VF via clearing the
>> bus master enable bit for VF before migrating these memory.
>>
>> The dma page allocated by VF driver also needs to reserve space
>> to do dummy write.
>
> I suggested ways to do it all in the hypervisor without driver hacks, or
> hide it within DMA API without need to reserve extra space. Both
> approaches seem much cleaner.
>

This sounds reasonable. We may discuss it detail in the separate thread.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-09 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-24 13:38 [RFC PATCH V2 0/3] IXGBE/VFIO: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Lan Tianyu
     [not found] ` <1448372298-28386-1-git-send-email-tianyu.lan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 13:38   ` [RFC PATCH V2 1/3] VFIO: Add new ioctl cmd VFIO_GET_PCI_CAP_INFO Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:38   ` [RFC PATCH V2 2/3] PCI: Add macros for faked PCI migration capability Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 13:38 ` [RFC PATCH V2 3/3] Ixgbevf: Add migration support for ixgbevf driver Lan Tianyu
2015-11-24 21:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]     ` <20151124230551-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-25  5:39       ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-25  5:39       ` Lan Tianyu
     [not found]         ` <56554994.1090305-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-25 12:28           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]             ` <20151125142437-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-25 16:02               ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-25 16:22                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                 ` <5655DB99.3040007-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-25 16:24                   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-25 16:39                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-11-25 17:24                       ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-24 14:20 ` [RFC PATCH V2 0/3] IXGBE/VFIO: Add live migration support for SRIOV NIC Alexander Duyck
     [not found]   ` <5654722D.4010409-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-25  3:18     ` Lan Tianyu
2015-11-25  5:30       ` Alexander Duyck
2015-11-25  8:21         ` Lan Tianyu
     [not found]           ` <56556F98.5060507-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-25 15:32             ` Alexander Duyck
     [not found]               ` <CAKgT0UevBmRLpM1PvuuVDUW79A66RcPrfO8uGiqL1RiALW7apg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-26  3:15                 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-11-26  3:56                   ` Alexander Duyck
     [not found]                     ` <CAKgT0Ucyq=7OSYBVvU9Z01b3f6scS+eBMLg+yphW7bwkNZosPQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-30  6:53                       ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-11-30 16:07                         ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-01 15:04                           ` Lan, Tianyu
     [not found]                             ` <565DB6FF.1050602-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-01 15:28                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-01 17:04                                 ` Alexander Duyck
     [not found]                                   ` <CAKgT0UfLEJpV-KdqRGfzBeas8bdqfHCmT5Xc8iVVP03g_pQO8A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-01 17:37                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-01 18:36                                       ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-02 11:44                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-04 16:32                                           ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-04 17:07                                             ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-07 15:40                                               ` Lan, Tianyu
     [not found]                                                 ` <5665A884.2020102-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-07 17:12                                                   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-07 17:39                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-12-07 18:42                                                       ` Alexander Duyck
2015-12-09  9:28                                                     ` Lan, Tianyu
2015-12-09 16:36                                                       ` Alexander Duyck
     [not found]                                             ` <5661C000.8070201-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 10:37                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                                 ` <20151209122831-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 11:19                                                   ` Lan, Tianyu [this message]
     [not found]                                                     ` <56680E33.6040204-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 11:28                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                                                         ` <20151209132233-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 11:41                                                           ` Lan, Tianyu

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=56680E33.6040204@intel.com \
    --to=tianyu.lan-ral2jqcrhueavxtiumwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=a.motakis-lrHrjnjw1UfHK3s98zE1ajGjJy/sRE9J@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=alex.williamson-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=alexander.duyck-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=b.reynal-lrHrjnjw1UfHK3s98zE1ajGjJy/sRE9J@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=bhelgaas-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=carolyn.wyborny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=donald.c.skidmore-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=eddie.dong-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=emil.s.tantilov-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=eric.auger-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=gerlitz.or-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=intel-wired-lan-qjLDD68F18P21nG7glBr7A@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=jeffrey.t.kirsher-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=kvm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=mark.d.rustad-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=nrupal.jani-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=pbonzini-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org \
    --cc=qemu-devel-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).