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From: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>
To: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com, lucien.xin@gmail.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org,
	mleitner@redhat.com, vyasevic@redhat.com, daniel@iogearbox.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/5] sctp: add the rhashtable apis for sctp global transport hashtable
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 13:08:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5693EFB8.4090604@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160111163337.GC6074@mrl.redhat.com>

On 01/11/2016 11:33 AM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 05:32:10PM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
>> David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
>>> From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:57:31 -0500
>>>
>>>> I am against using rhashtable in SCTP (or TCP) at this stage, given the
>>>> number of bugs we have with it.
>>>
>>> Come on Eric, we've largely dealt with all of these problems.  I haven't
>>> seen a serious report in a while.
>>
>> Well there is still the outstanding issue with softirq insertion
>> potentially failing with ENOMEM if we fail to expand the hash
>> table using just kmalloc.
>>
>> So if the target user does softirq insertions, I would wait until
>> the fix for that is ready.
> 
> It does some, yes. If listening socket is not backlogged, there will be
> N inserts at each new association, where N is the number of IP addresses
> that the client is advertising.
> 
> This is done on the second stage of the SCTP handshake. Not easily
> DoS-able as it requires receiving a packet from server and replying
> based on it, plus N is limited by MTU.

How is N limited by MTU?  INIT and COOKIE chunks are allowed to exceed
mtu and will be IP fragmented.  So it seems that N is limited by 65535-overhead,
where overhead is all the headers plus the sctp cookie info.  That can
be quite a lot of addresses.

-vlad

> 
> AFAIK Xin's stress tests couldn't hit this situation of ENOMEM, btw.
> 
> Thanks,
> Marcelo
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-11 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-30 15:50 [PATCH net-next 0/5] sctp: use transport hashtable to replace association's with rhashtable Xin Long
2015-12-30 15:50 ` [PATCH net-next 1/5] sctp: add the rhashtable apis for sctp global transport hashtable Xin Long
2015-12-30 15:50   ` [PATCH net-next 2/5] sctp: apply rhashtable api to send/recv path Xin Long
2015-12-30 15:50     ` [PATCH net-next 3/5] sctp: apply rhashtable api to sctp procfs Xin Long
2015-12-30 15:50       ` [PATCH net-next 4/5] sctp: drop the old assoc hashtable of sctp Xin Long
2015-12-30 15:50         ` [PATCH net-next 5/5] sctp: remove the local_bh_disable/enable in sctp_endpoint_lookup_assoc Xin Long
2016-01-05 19:07     ` [PATCH net-next 2/5] sctp: apply rhashtable api to send/recv path Vlad Yasevich
2016-01-06 16:18       ` Xin Long
2016-01-06 17:42       ` mleitner
2016-01-11 15:00         ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-30 16:57   ` [PATCH net-next 1/5] sctp: add the rhashtable apis for sctp global transport hashtable Eric Dumazet
2015-12-30 17:50     ` David Miller
2016-01-11  9:32       ` Herbert Xu
2016-01-11 16:33         ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2016-01-11 18:08           ` Vlad Yasevich [this message]
2016-01-11 18:19             ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-30 17:41   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2016-01-05 10:10     ` Xin Long
2016-01-11  9:22       ` Herbert Xu
2016-01-05 18:38   ` Vlad Yasevich
2016-01-06 17:01     ` Xin Long
2016-01-06 18:19       ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2016-01-07 17:23         ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2016-01-07 20:28       ` Vlad Yasevich
2016-01-11  9:30   ` Herbert Xu
2016-01-11 16:00     ` mleitner
2016-01-11 17:20       ` Vlad Yasevich
2016-01-11 18:09         ` mleitner
2016-01-11 21:35           ` David Miller
2016-01-11 21:31         ` David Miller
2015-12-30 17:19 ` [PATCH net-next 0/5] sctp: use transport hashtable to replace association's with rhashtable Eric Dumazet
2015-12-30 17:32   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-30 19:11     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-30 20:44       ` David Miller
2015-12-30 21:57         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-30 22:29           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-30 17:52   ` David Miller
2015-12-30 19:03     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-30 20:40       ` David Miller
2016-01-04 22:30 ` David Miller

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