From: Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru>
To: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
Cc: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Sowmini Varadhan <sowmini.varadhan@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Q: bad routing table cache entries
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 23:43:06 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5695655A.60509@list.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56953C27.4030405@stressinduktion.org>
12.01.2016 20:47, Hannes Frederic Sowa пишет:
> On 12.01.2016 18:33, Stas Sergeev wrote:
>> 12.01.2016 20:26, Hannes Frederic Sowa пишет:
>>> On 12.01.2016 18:18, Stas Sergeev wrote:
>>>> 12.01.2016 20:06, Hannes Frederic Sowa пишет:
>>>>> On 12.01.2016 17:56, Stas Sergeev wrote:
>>>>>> 12.01.2016 19:42, Stas Sergeev пишет:
>>>>>> Also the rfc1620 you pointed, seems to be saying this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A Redirect message SHOULD be silently
>>>>>> discarded if the
>>>>>> new router address it specifies is not on the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> connected (sub-) net through which the
>>>>>> Redirect arrived,
>>>>>> or if the source of the Redirect is not the
>>>>>> current
>>>>>> first-hop router for the specified destination.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems, this is exactly the rule we were trying to find
>>>>>> during the thread. And it seems violated, either. Unless I am
>>>>>> mis-interpreting it, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you read on you will read that with shared_media this exact
>>>>> clause (the first of those) is not in effect any more.
>>>> OK. But how to get such a redirect to work, if (checked with
>>>> tcpdump) the packets do not even go to eth0, but to "lo"?
>>>
>>> I don't know, the router must be on the same shared medium. I guess
>>> physical reconfiguration is required?
>> It is same.
>> Router 192.168.8.1 has just one ethernet port.
>> And even on the 192.168.10.202 node I can do:
>> # arp -a |grep "0.1"
>> ? (192.168.0.1) at 14:d6:4d:1c:97:3d [ether] on eth0
>> So even 0.1 is about to be reachable.
>> Still nothing works.
>> Should it work if 192.168.0.1 router, to which 8.1 redirects,
>> has shared_media disabled?
>
> Can you check with tcpdump?
That's what I already did.
I monitored on 8.1 router and on the node itself,
and my conclusion was that the packets do not
even reach the eth0 interface. Instead I captured
them on "lo" interface, so I assumed such route is
completely broken.
If it is not - how can I even see that it exist? How to
list these redirect routes?
I'd like to do some investigations, but this looks no
more than a black magic without a proper support
from tools, proper documentation, etc.
And I suspect that shared_media is disabled on a 0.1
router, so I wonder if this can work at all, even if the node
is cured to do the right thing with those redirects.
In a nearby message David Miller says:
---
2) increasing the chance of successful communication with peers
---
If this can't work right when one of the gateways has
shared_media disabled, then this rule is clearly violated.
> ping requires the router to also find a correct way back, so packet
> can get stuck at a lot of places. Also uRPF is maybe active which kind
> of defeats shared_media and please check netfilter.
I am pretty sure the node has a default ubuntu without
any special network tweaks, but I'll double-check.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-12 20:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-29 10:54 Q: bad routing table cache entries Stas Sergeev
2015-12-29 11:58 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-29 12:06 ` Stas Sergeev
2015-12-29 12:32 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-29 12:43 ` Stas Sergeev
2015-12-29 13:19 ` Stas Sergeev
2015-12-29 15:22 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-29 15:38 ` Stas Sergeev
2015-12-29 17:40 ` Stas Sergeev
2015-12-30 12:42 ` Stas Sergeev
2015-12-30 14:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-30 17:56 ` David Miller
2016-01-04 1:05 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2016-01-04 1:32 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-04 17:23 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-12 14:40 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-12 14:47 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2016-01-12 20:33 ` David Miller
2016-01-12 15:34 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-01-12 15:52 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-01-12 16:03 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-12 16:10 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-01-12 16:42 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-12 16:56 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-12 17:06 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-01-12 17:18 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-12 17:26 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-01-12 17:33 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-12 17:47 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-01-12 20:43 ` Stas Sergeev [this message]
2016-01-12 22:26 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-01-12 22:57 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-12 23:07 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-01-13 12:59 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-12 17:41 ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-12 15:57 ` Stas Sergeev
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