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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/32] Make DSA switches linux devices.
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 12:36:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56E712B2.9010905@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160312170827.GA2186@lunn.ch>

On 12/03/16 09:08, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>>
>>> The third switch is as you would expect, dsa,member = <0 2>;
>>
>> I like that representation.
>>
> 
> ...
> 
>> So does that mean you agree we do not need the DSA platform device
>> anymore :)?
> 
> It looks like it can be	done without the DSA platform device.
> 
> My previous approach was to keep the new binding as similar as
> possible to the current one. If however, we decide we are going for
> something totally new, we can remove this platform device.

The old binding can and should remain available, we just don't want to
match it anymore using a generic DSA platform device, but that does not
prevent a driver using the old binding to get a struct dsa_platform_data
to be properly filed if it was using it through dsa_of_probe(). With the
networking stack offfering resident code to deal with DSA, we could also
warn if we see a node in tree with "marvell,dsa".

The new binding looks very similar to the previous one and this is
certainly a good thing to do. With that in mind the new binding should
probably be keeping the per-port Device Tree node representation and
properties, because that one seems correct, the parts that had gone
wrong were definitively the "reg" property and the dsa,mii-bus property
if not the dsa,ethernet as well, but code will talk.

> 
> It probably means we need to turn slave.c and parts of dsa.c into a
> library. Add a new dsa_v2.c file, containing the new binding
> code. With things like having the switch devices instantiate there own
> MDIO bus, fixed phys on a compatible MDIO bus referenced via phandles,
> etc, I hope we can make parts of the dsa_v2 simpler.

Looks like we still need to get this one ironed out.

> 
>> Very true, we support a wide variety of setups, and that creates a lot
>> of complexity that could probably be absorbed by a more generic helper
>> function?
> 
> No, i want to go the other direction. Make all these phy setups look
> identical. It is just a phy-handle=<&phandle> property. With my MDIO
> fixed-phy bus patches, it just works for user ports, and the only
> thing we need to deal with is phy-mode.
> 
> DSA and CPU ports are harder, due to a lack of a netdev. Horrible, but
> maybe would could do a alloc_netdev(), but never register_netdev()?
> It gives us something to attach the phy to.

Humm, I suppose that could work, in practice, having a full-fledged
"cpu" network device would be more useful than having e.g: eth0, now
being the conduit interface, because that one, really is useless to
applications because it needs a tag to be applied and there is nothing
doing that. Food for thought.

> 
>>> 1) The switch device should use mdiobus_alloc()/mdiobus_register() for
>>> its own MDIO bus.
>>
>> Agreed, possibly with the help of the DSA slave code, since some of that
>> is already doing its magic for most drivers here.
> 
> I think the switch driver should instantiate the MDIO bus, not the
> core. The core could however offer some helper code.

Works for me.
-- 
Florian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-14 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-28 16:41 [PATCH RFC v2 00/32] Make DSA switches linux devices Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/32] net: dsa: Move platform data allocation for OF Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/32] dsa: Rename mv88e6123_61_65 to mv88e6123 to be consistent Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/32] dsa: Make setup and finish more symmetrical Andrew Lunn
2016-03-11 23:54   ` Florian Fainelli
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/32] net: dsa: Pass the dsa device to the switch drivers Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/32] net: dsa: Have the switch driver allocate there own private memory Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/32] net: dsa: Remove allocation of driver " Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/32] net: dsa: Keep the mii bus and address in the private structure Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/32] net: dsa: dsa.c: Refactor to increase symmetry Andrew Lunn
2016-03-11 23:54   ` Florian Fainelli
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/32] driver: component: Add support for empty match table Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/32] net: dsa: Add basic support for component master support Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/32] net: dsa: Keep a reference to the switch device for component matching Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/32] net: dsa: Add slave component matches based on a phandle to the slave Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/32] net: dsa: Make dsa,mii-bus optional Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/32] net: dsa: Add register/unregister functions for switch drivers Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/32] net: dsa: Rename DSA probe function Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/32] dsa: mv88e6xxx: Use bus in mv88e6xxx_lookup_name() Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/32] dsa: mv88e6xxx: Add shared code for binding/unbinding a switch driver Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/32] dsa: mv88e6xxx: Prepare for turning this into a library module Andrew Lunn
2016-02-29  2:40   ` Vivien Didelot
2016-02-29 14:53     ` Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 19/32] dsa: mv88e6xxx: Add macro for registering the drivers Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 20/32] dsa: Add mdio device support to Marvell switches Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 21/32] net: mdio: Add mdiodev_{read|write} helpers Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 22/32] net: dsa: Better integrate the drivers with mdio device Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 23/32] net: dsa: bcm_sf2: make it a real platform driver Andrew Lunn
2016-03-03 18:33   ` Florian Fainelli
2016-03-03 19:12     ` Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 24/32] net: dsa: Add some debug prints for error cases Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 25/32] net: dsa: Setup the switches after all have been probed Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 26/32] net: dsa: Only setup platform switches, not device switches Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 27/32] net: dsa: If a switch fails to probe, defer probing Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 28/32] Documentation: DSA: Describe how probe of DSA and switches work Andrew Lunn
2016-02-29 11:42   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 29/32] dsa: slave: Don't reference NULL pointer during phy_disconnect Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 30/32] dsa: Destroy fixed link phys after the phy has been disconnected Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 31/32] dsa: dsa: Fix freeing of fixed-phys from user ports Andrew Lunn
2016-02-28 16:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 32/32] phy: fixed: Fix removal of phys Andrew Lunn
2016-03-03 18:49 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/32] Make DSA switches linux devices Florian Fainelli
2016-03-03 20:27   ` Andrew Lunn
2016-03-11 23:41     ` Florian Fainelli
2016-03-12 17:08       ` Andrew Lunn
2016-03-13  7:26         ` Vivien Didelot
2016-03-14 19:36         ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2016-03-14 20:51           ` Andrew Lunn

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