From: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
To: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
philipp.reisner@linbit.com, drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Drbd-dev] [PATCH net-next v3] block/drbd: align properly u64 in nl messages
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 12:06:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5731B2B0.3000400@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160510094023.GC16459@soda.linbit>
Le 10/05/2016 11:40, Lars Ellenberg a écrit :
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 11:09:53AM +0200, Nicolas Dichtel wrote:
>> Le 09/05/2016 15:15, Lars Ellenberg a écrit :
>>> On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 11:40:20AM +0200, Nicolas Dichtel wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>> Maybe prefixing genl_magic_func.h and genl_magic_struct.h by 'drbd_'
>>>> could be interesting so that new module won't use it. What is your
>>>> opinion?
>>>
>>> This was supposed to not be DRBD specific. But it might even still
>>> need some massaging before it was truly generic. And obviously,
>>> it does not meet the taste of genetlink folks, to say the least :(
>> Yes, this file is not generic and netlink APIs are never defined like this.
>> These tons of macro complexifies the code too much. It's overengineering for
>> what purpose?
>
> If we introduce a new config option,
> we have to add it to the config scanner (one line),
> define min, max, default and scale (four short defines),
> and add it to the netlink definition here (one line).
> Done, rest of the code is generated,
> both on the kernel side,
> and on the drbd-utils side used to talk to the kernel.
> We found that to be very convenient.
Ok.
>
>> Small examples:
>> - the drbd netlink API is not exported via uapi (I wonder how apps using this
>> API get it)
>
> There used to be a time where there was no "uapi".
> (I wonder how apps ever worked back then).
At that time, include/linux/ was exported ;-)
>
>> - v2 of the patch is nacked because adding a new attribute may break existing
>
> No.
>
> But because the "new" attributes you chose have not been new,
> but already used (though not yet merged back into mainline yet).
> (Which you did not realize, and had no obvious way of knowing.
> Could have been fixed.).
Ok.
>
> And because your patch introduced useless new members to the structs.
> (Could also have been fixed).
>
> And because I did not see any use defining that many new "padding attributes"
> for no reason, where the obvious (to me) choice was to use 0, and you
> did not even try to explain why that would have been a bad choice.
Because some nl APIs were wrongly use 0 as a valid attribute we make the choice
of always adding a new attribute for padding to be sure to not break existing API.
And yes, in drdb it does not seem to be the case.
> Is this going somewhere?
I'm just trying to understand things.
Regards,
Nicolas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-10 10:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-26 8:06 [PATCH net-next 0/8] netlink: align attributes when needed (patchset #3) Nicolas Dichtel
2016-04-26 8:06 ` [PATCH net-next 5/8] ovs: align nlattr properly when needed Nicolas Dichtel
2016-04-26 8:06 ` [PATCH net-next 6/8] rtnl: " Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <1461657978-13360-1-git-send-email-nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-26 8:06 ` [PATCH net-next 1/8] macsec: use nla_put_u64_64bit() Nicolas Dichtel
2016-04-26 8:06 ` [PATCH net-next 2/8] drivers/wireless: " Nicolas Dichtel
2016-04-26 8:06 ` [PATCH net-next 3/8] fs/quota: " Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <1461657978-13360-4-git-send-email-nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-26 11:08 ` Jan Kara
[not found] ` <20160426110848.GD27612-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-26 12:31 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <571F5FBE.8050900-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-26 12:37 ` Jan Kara
2016-04-26 16:24 ` David Miller
2016-04-26 8:06 ` [PATCH net-next 4/8] sock_diag: align nlattr properly when needed Nicolas Dichtel
2016-04-26 8:06 ` [PATCH net-next 7/8] neigh: " Nicolas Dichtel
2016-04-26 8:06 ` [PATCH net-next 8/8] sched: " Nicolas Dichtel
2016-04-26 11:54 ` [PATCH net-next 0/8] netlink: align attributes when needed (patchset #3) Lars Ellenberg
[not found] ` <20160426115427.GB20950-w1SgEEioFePxa46PmUWvFg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-26 12:18 ` Lars Ellenberg
2016-05-03 8:50 ` [PATCH net-next] block/drbd: use nla_put_u64_64bit() Nicolas Dichtel
2016-05-03 9:28 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2016-05-03 9:39 ` [PATCH net-next v2] " Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <1462268358-19044-1-git-send-email-nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-03 10:06 ` Lars Ellenberg
2016-05-03 12:07 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2016-05-03 16:05 ` David Miller
[not found] ` <20160503.120556.1317913903199470646.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04 9:05 ` Lars Ellenberg
2016-05-04 12:49 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <5729EFBC.7040002-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-04 12:52 ` Lars Ellenberg
2016-05-04 14:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-04 16:50 ` David Miller
2016-05-04 17:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-04 16:47 ` David Miller
2016-05-03 16:06 ` David Miller
2016-05-09 9:40 ` [PATCH net-next v3] block/drbd: align properly u64 in nl messages Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <1462786820-15519-1-git-send-email-nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-09 13:15 ` Lars Ellenberg
[not found] ` <20160509131547.GX16459-w1SgEEioFePxa46PmUWvFg@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-10 9:09 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <5731A561.6090509-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-10 9:40 ` Lars Ellenberg
2016-05-10 10:06 ` Nicolas Dichtel [this message]
2016-05-10 15:39 ` [Drbd-dev] " David Miller
[not found] ` <20160510.113949.2077250222547175741.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-10 19:09 ` Lars Ellenberg
2016-05-10 19:26 ` [Drbd-dev] " David Miller
2016-04-26 16:25 ` [PATCH net-next 0/8] netlink: align attributes when needed (patchset #3) David Miller
2016-04-26 16:02 ` David Miller
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