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From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com>
To: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/8] tou: Transports over UDP - part I
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 14:36:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <576DA7C4.7040108@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALx6S35ii7nF0s9n2ocpvNcjo25uDHd+788X+3oTqc4sd1SjOQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/24/2016 02:12 PM, Tom Herbert wrote:
> The client OS side is only part of the story. Middlebox intrusion at
> L4 is also a major issue we need to address. The "failure" of TFO is a
> good case study. Both the upgrade issues on clients and the tendency
> for some middleboxes to drop SYN packets with data have together
> severely hindered what otherwise should have been straightforward and
> useful feature to deploy.

How would you define "severely?"  Has it actually been more severe than 
for say ECN?  Or it was for say SACK or PAWS?

rick jones

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-24 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 17:51 [PATCH net-next 0/8] tou: Transports over UDP - part I Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 17:51 ` [PATCH net-next 1/8] net: Change SKB_GSO_DODGY to be a tx_flag Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 18:58   ` Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 20:18     ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 20:33       ` Alexander Duyck
2016-06-17 22:33     ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 17:51 ` [PATCH net-next 2/8] fou: Change ip_tunnel_encap to take net argument Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 17:51 ` [PATCH net-next 3/8] tou: Base infrastructure for Transport over UDP Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 17:51 ` [PATCH net-next 4/8] ipv4: Support TOU Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 17:51 ` [PATCH net-next 5/8] tcp: Support for TOU Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 17:52 ` [PATCH net-next 6/8] ipv6: Support TOU Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 17:52 ` [PATCH net-next 7/8] tcp6: Support for TOU Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 17:52 ` [PATCH net-next 8/8] tou: Support for GSO Tom Herbert
2016-06-16 18:10 ` [PATCH net-next 0/8] tou: Transports over UDP - part I Rick Jones
2016-06-16 23:15 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-17 16:51   ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-21 16:56     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-18  3:09 ` David Miller
2016-06-18  3:52   ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-19 20:15     ` Hajime Tazaki
2016-06-20  3:07     ` David Miller
2016-06-20 15:13       ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-21  8:29         ` David Miller
2016-06-22  3:42           ` Jerry Chu
2016-06-22  4:06             ` David Ahern
2016-06-22 19:24               ` David Miller
2016-06-22 17:40             ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-22 19:23             ` David Miller
2016-06-25 15:56               ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-21 17:11     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-21 17:23       ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-22 22:15 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-22 22:56   ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-23  7:40   ` David Miller
2016-06-23  7:50     ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-24 21:12       ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-24 21:36         ` Rick Jones [this message]
2016-06-24 21:46           ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-24 22:06             ` Rick Jones
2016-06-24 23:43               ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-25  0:01                 ` Rick Jones
2016-06-25 16:22                   ` Tom Herbert

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