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From: Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
To: Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
Cc: "Grumbach, Emmanuel" <emmanuel.grumbach@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxwifi <linuxwifi@intel.com>,
	"Coelho, Luciano" <luciano.coelho@intel.com>,
	"Berg, Johannes" <johannes.berg@intel.com>,
	"Ivgi, Chaya Rachel" <chaya.rachel.ivgi@intel.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Sharon, Sara" <sara.sharon@intel.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] iwlwifi, Do not implement thermal zone unless ucode is loaded
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 06:01:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57861172.30103@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eg6yav5e.fsf@purkki.adurom.net>



On 07/13/2016 02:50 AM, Kalle Valo wrote:
> Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>>> We implement thermal zone because we do support it, but the problem is
>>> that we need the firmware to be loaded for that. So you can argue that
>>> we should register *later* when the firmware is loaded. But this is
>>> really not helping all that much because the firmware can also be
>>> stopped at any time. So you'd want us to register / unregister the
>>> thermal zone anytime the firmware is loaded / unloaded?
>>
>> You might have to do that.  I think that if the firmware enables a feature then
>> the act of loading the firmware should run the code that enables the feature.
>> IMO of course.
> 
> But I suspect that the iwlwifi firmware is loaded during interface up
> (and unloaded during interface down) and in that case
> register/unregister would be happening all the time. 

You make it sound like the interface is coming and going a 1000 times a second.
 Maybe this happens once during runtime & during suspend/resume cycles?  What
about the cases when the firmware isn't present (and that's what lead me to this
bug)?

That doesn't sound
> like a good idea. I would rather try to fix the thermal interface to
> handle the cases when the measurement is not available.
> 

Userspace is broken because of this change.  I've had to make another horrible
change to cpufreq for a similar change so I don't see the argument here to just
blame userspace and ignore the outcome of the patch.

P.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-13 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-11 15:18 [PATCH RESEND] iwlwifi, Do not implement thermal zone unless ucode is loaded Prarit Bhargava
2016-07-11 16:07 ` Coelho, Luciano
2016-07-11 17:00   ` Prarit Bhargava
2016-07-11 18:00 ` Emmanuel Grumbach
2016-07-11 18:19   ` Prarit Bhargava
2016-07-11 18:27     ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2016-07-11 20:31       ` Prarit Bhargava
     [not found]         ` <57840214.8000904-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13  6:50           ` Kalle Valo
     [not found]             ` <87eg6yav5e.fsf-5ukZ45wKbUHoml4zekdYB16hYfS7NtTn@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13  7:24               ` Luca Coelho
2016-07-13 10:20                 ` Prarit Bhargava
2016-07-14  8:01                   ` Kalle Valo
2016-07-14  9:08                     ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2016-07-13 10:01             ` Prarit Bhargava [this message]
2016-07-14  7:13               ` Kalle Valo
2016-07-14  9:24       ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2016-07-14  9:44         ` Grumbach, Emmanuel
2016-07-15 11:25           ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2016-07-15 12:14             ` Prarit Bhargava
2016-07-17  6:13               ` Grumbach, Emmanuel

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