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From: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: mst@redhat.com, shrijeet@gmail.com, tom@herbertland.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, shm@cumulusnetworks.com,
	roopa@cumulusnetworks.com, nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC WIP] Patch for XDP support for virtio_net
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 14:09:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58126CF4.5090500@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161027105514.4c0374dd@redhat.com>

On 16-10-27 01:55 AM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:11:22 -0400 (EDT)
> David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> 
>> From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
>> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 20:07:19 +0300
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 12:52:45PM -0400, David Miller wrote:  
>>>> From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
>>>> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 19:36:45 +0300
>>>>   
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 03:52:02PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:  
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 04:07:23 +0000
>>>>>> Shrijeet Mukherjee <shrijeet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> This patch adds support for xdp ndo and also inserts the xdp program
>>>>>>> call into the merged RX buffers and big buffers paths  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really appreciate you are doing this for virtio_net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My first question is: Is the (packet) page data writable?
>>>>>> (MST might be able to answer?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As this is currently an XDP requirement[1].    
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure I understand what does writable mean.
>>>>> Could you explain a bit more pls?
>>>>> We do copy data into skb ATM but I plan to change that.  
>>>>
>>>> The packet data area must be writable,  
>>>
>>> This is the part I don't fully understand.
>>> It's in RAM so of course it's writeable.  
>>
>> Pages in SKB frag lists are not usually writable, because they share
>> space with data from other packets the way drivers usually carve up
>> pages to receive packets into.
>>
>> It is therefore illegal for the networking code to write into SKB frag
>> pages.
>>
>> Pages used for XDP processed packets must not have this restriction.
>>
>>> We share pages between arbitrary multiple packets. I think that's
>>> OK  
>>
>> That's exactly what is not allowed with XDP.
>>
>> Each packet must be the sole user of a page, otherwise the semantics
>> required by XDP are not met.
> 
> Looking at the virtio_net.c code, the function call receive_big() might
> actually be okay for XDP, unless the incoming packet is larger than
> PAGE_SIZE and thus uses several pages (via a linked list in page->private).
> 
> The receive_mergeable() does not look compatible with XDP.
> 

Looks to me the correct conditions can be met by getting the correct
feature negotiation to happen, specifically no VIRTIO_NET_F_MRG_RXBUF
and one of the TSO/ECN/GSO feature bits set the big_packets flag as
Jesper notes.

Srijeet, are you going to give this a try? I'm trying to get the device
side working by the way on the vhost interface.

Thanks,
John

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-27 21:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-22  4:07 [PATCH net-next RFC WIP] Patch for XDP support for virtio_net Shrijeet Mukherjee
2016-10-23 16:38 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-10-24  1:51   ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
2016-10-25  1:10     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-10-25 17:36 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-10-26 13:52 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-10-26 16:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-26 16:52     ` David Miller
2016-10-26 17:07       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-26 17:11         ` David Miller
2016-10-27  8:55           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-10-27 21:09             ` John Fastabend [this message]
2016-10-27 21:30               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-27 21:42                 ` David Miller
2016-10-27 22:25                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-28  1:35                     ` David Miller
2016-10-28  1:43                       ` Alexander Duyck
2016-10-28  2:10                         ` David Miller
2016-10-28 15:56                           ` John Fastabend
2016-10-28 16:18                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-10-28 18:22                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-10-28 20:35                                 ` Alexander Duyck
2016-10-28 20:42                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-10-28 20:36                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-10-29  3:51                                 ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
2016-10-29 11:25                                   ` Thomas Graf
2016-11-02 14:27                                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-11-03  1:28                                       ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
2016-11-03  4:11                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-03  6:44                                           ` John Fastabend
2016-11-03 22:20                                             ` John Fastabend
2016-11-03 22:42                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-03 23:29                                               ` John Fastabend
2016-11-04  0:34                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-04 23:05                                                   ` John Fastabend
2016-11-06  6:50                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-28 17:11                             ` David Miller
2016-10-30 22:53                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-02 14:01                               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-11-02 16:06                                 ` Alexander Duyck
2016-10-28  0:02               ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
2016-10-28  0:46                 ` Shrijeet Mukherjee

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