From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
To: Edward Cree <ecree@solarflare.com>, Y Song <ys114321@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] bpf/verifier: improve disassembly of BPF_END instructions
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:29:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <59C4131D.8050003@iogearbox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <207ecd4c-b1b4-3dcd-62a6-30824c19dbf7@solarflare.com>
On 09/21/2017 06:58 PM, Edward Cree wrote:
> On 21/09/17 17:40, Y Song wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 9:24 AM, Edward Cree <ecree@solarflare.com> wrote:
>>> On 21/09/17 16:52, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>> imo
>>>> (u16) r4 endian be
>>>> isn't intuitive.
>>>> Can we come up with some better syntax?
>>>> Like
>>>> bswap16be r4
>>>> bswap32le r4
>>> Hmm, I don't like these, since bswapbe is a swap on *le* and a nop on be.
Agree, a bit too much 'swap' semantics in the name that could be
confusing perhaps, at least the be/le could be missed easily.
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> to_be16 r4
>>>> to_le32 r4
>>> And the problem here is that it's not just to_be, it's also from_be.
More intuitive, but agree on the from_be/le. Maybe we should
just drop the "to_" prefix altogether, and leave the rest as is since
it's not surrounded by braces, it's also not a cast but rather an op.
>> Could you explain what is "from_be" here? Do not quite understand.
> Taking the example of a little-endian processor:
> cpu_to_be16() is a byte-swap, converting a u16 (cpu-endian) to a __be16.
> be16_to_cpu(), to convert a __be16 to a u16, is *also* a byte-swap.
> Meanwhile, cpu_to_le16() and le16_to_cpu() are both no-ops.
>
> More generally, the conversions between cpu-endian and fixed-endian for
> any given size are self-inverses. eBPF takes advantage of this by only
> having a single opcode for both the "to" and "from" direction. So to
> specify an endianness conversion, you need only the size and the fixed
> endianness (le or be), not the to/from direction. Conversely, when
> disassembling one of these instructions, you don't know whether it's a
> cpu_to_be16() or a be16_to_cpu(), because they both look the same at an
> instruction level (they only differ in what types the programmer thought
> of the register as holding before and after).
Yeah, exactly to the point. :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-21 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-21 15:09 [PATCH net-next] bpf/verifier: improve disassembly of BPF_END instructions Edward Cree
2017-09-21 15:52 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-09-21 16:24 ` Edward Cree
2017-09-21 16:40 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-09-21 16:40 ` Y Song
2017-09-21 16:58 ` Edward Cree
2017-09-21 19:29 ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2017-09-21 19:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-09-21 19:58 ` Edward Cree
2017-09-21 23:11 ` Y Song
2017-09-22 13:46 ` Edward Cree
2017-09-22 14:11 ` Y Song
2017-09-22 14:27 ` Y Song
2017-09-22 15:16 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-09-22 16:23 ` Edward Cree
2017-09-23 4:49 ` Y Song
2017-09-24 5:50 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-09-25 21:44 ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-09-26 1:33 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-09-26 14:37 ` Edward Cree
2017-09-21 16:30 ` Y Song
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