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From: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>,
	Andrew Melnychenko <andrew@daynix.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	gur.stavi@huawei.com, Lei Yang <leiyang@redhat.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v9 3/6] tun: Introduce virtio-net hash feature
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 17:16:41 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5cfedd24-de7c-484b-afa7-ddb4828fb9e8@daynix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEtCEwSB7XvCg7_8ebkcM8o2s8JB2Err2f153L-_i2KtxA@mail.gmail.com>

On 2025/03/10 13:01, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 11:55 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 7:01 PM Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hash reporting
>>> ==============
>>>
>>> Allow the guest to reuse the hash value to make receive steering
>>> consistent between the host and guest, and to save hash computation.
>>>
>>> RSS
>>> ===
>>>
>>> RSS is a receive steering algorithm that can be negotiated to use with
>>> virtio_net. Conventionally the hash calculation was done by the VMM.
>>> However, computing the hash after the queue was chosen defeats the
>>> purpose of RSS.
>>>
>>> Another approach is to use eBPF steering program. This approach has
>>> another downside: it cannot report the calculated hash due to the
>>> restrictive nature of eBPF steering program.
>>>
>>> Introduce the code to perform RSS to the kernel in order to overcome
>>> thse challenges. An alternative solution is to extend the eBPF steering
>>> program so that it will be able to report to the userspace, but I didn't
>>> opt for it because extending the current mechanism of eBPF steering
>>> program as is because it relies on legacy context rewriting, and
>>> introducing kfunc-based eBPF will result in non-UAPI dependency while
>>> the other relevant virtualization APIs such as KVM and vhost_net are
>>> UAPIs.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Akihiko Odaki <akihiko.odaki@daynix.com>
>>> Tested-by: Lei Yang <leiyang@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>>   Documentation/networking/tuntap.rst |   7 ++
>>>   drivers/net/Kconfig                 |   1 +
>>>   drivers/net/tap.c                   |  68 ++++++++++++++-
>>>   drivers/net/tun.c                   |  98 +++++++++++++++++-----
>>>   drivers/net/tun_vnet.h              | 159 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>>>   include/linux/if_tap.h              |   2 +
>>>   include/linux/skbuff.h              |   3 +
>>>   include/uapi/linux/if_tun.h         |  75 +++++++++++++++++
>>>   net/core/skbuff.c                   |   4 +
>>>   9 files changed, 386 insertions(+), 31 deletions(-)
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> + *
>>> + * The %TUN_VNET_HASH_REPORT flag set with this ioctl will be effective only
>>> + * after calling the %TUNSETVNETHDRSZ ioctl with a number greater than or equal
>>> + * to the size of &struct virtio_net_hdr_v1_hash.
>>
>> So you had a dependency check already for vnet hdr len. I'd still
>> suggest to split this into rss and hash as they are separated
>> features. Then we can use separate data structure for them instead of
>> a container struct.
>>
> 
> Besides this, I think we still need to add new bits to TUNGETIFF to
> let userspace know about the new ability.

The userspace can peform TUNGETVNETHASHCAP and see if it results in EINVAL.

Regards,
Akihiko Odaki

> 
> Thanks
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-10  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-07 11:01 [PATCH net-next v9 0/6] tun: Introduce virtio-net hashing feature Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 1/6] virtio_net: Add functions for hashing Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-10  3:55   ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10  6:53     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-11  0:47       ` Jason Wang
2025-03-11  5:49         ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-17  1:24           ` Jason Wang
2025-03-17  6:08             ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 2/6] net: flow_dissector: Export flow_keys_dissector_symmetric Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 3/6] tun: Introduce virtio-net hash feature Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-08 19:32   ` Willem de Bruijn
2025-03-10  7:11     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-10  3:55   ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10  4:01     ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10  8:16       ` Akihiko Odaki [this message]
2025-03-10  7:45     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-11  0:38       ` Jason Wang
2025-03-11  6:11         ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-12  2:35           ` Jason Wang
2025-03-12  5:03             ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-17  1:12               ` Jason Wang
2025-03-17  7:06                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-18  0:15                   ` Jason Wang
2025-03-18 10:10                     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-19  0:58                       ` Jason Wang
2025-03-19  5:28                         ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-20  1:31                           ` Jason Wang
2025-03-20  5:33                             ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-21  1:13                               ` Jason Wang
2025-03-21  5:56                                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-24  4:40                                   ` Jason Wang
2025-03-29  9:15                                     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-11  6:17         ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-12  2:59           ` Jason Wang
2025-03-12  5:55             ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-17  1:15               ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10  7:58     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-11  0:40       ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10  8:13     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 4/6] selftest: tun: Test vnet ioctls without device Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 5/6] selftest: tun: Add tests for virtio-net hashing Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-08 19:39   ` Willem de Bruijn
2025-03-10  4:03   ` Jason Wang
2025-03-11  6:19     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v9 6/6] vhost/net: Support VIRTIO_NET_F_HASH_REPORT Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-10  4:43   ` Jason Wang
2025-03-10  7:04     ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-11  0:42       ` Jason Wang
2025-03-11  6:24         ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-12  3:36           ` Jason Wang
2025-03-12  5:59             ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-17  1:15               ` Jason Wang
2025-03-19  4:43                 ` Akihiko Odaki
2025-03-13  1:15 ` [PATCH net-next v9 0/6] tun: Introduce virtio-net hashing feature Lei Yang

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