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From: starlight@binnacle.cx
To: chetan loke <loke.chetan@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen.hemminger@vyatta.com>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	lokechetan@gmail.com, Con Kolivas <conman@kolivas.org>,
	Serge Belyshev <belyshev@depni.sinp.msu.ru>
Subject: Re: big picture UDP/IP performance question re 2.6.18 -> 2.6.32
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:41:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20111007153756.039bcdc8@binnacle.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAsGZS4b2F9N3nV3TNu5xG+=2d0L0ncste4xv2vqoVFb1pOxEw @mail.gmail.com>

If they didn't want $20k to get started ($10k
for the card, $10k for the developer kit) would
probably have ported our application to run
outboard on a Tile64 NIC.  The cost + youth
of Tilra has been just a little to far out
on the edge.  If they survive (and lower the
price a bit) it will become an increasingly
easier sell.

If their patents hold up and their investors
can stomach the legal battles, they may
win the day.  Intel and AMD use ring
topologies between cores and this can
only scale so far.


At 03:27 PM 10/7/2011 -0400, chetan loke wrote:
>If at all, tile-cpu may not be able to survive the
>heat in host-mode, but there's no competition in
>device-mode. ASIC design is an expensive science
>project. All adapter vendors know this. Not to
>mention all the chicken-games they then have to
>play to incorporate multi-core ARMs(or whatever
>CPUs) to support big(40/100 G) pipes. Slowly their
>firmware needs to evolve as an OS and they start
>shopping for RT linux shops/consulting firms.Been
>there. Done that. There's a lot of bad blood and
>too much pain involved when you ask clunky
>firmware guys to abandon the big fat while loop in
>their beloved firmware and stop hacking the chip
>;). Offload it to a tile-CPU and just sell what
>you are good at - a darn protocol stack...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-07 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-07  3:27 big picture UDP/IP performance question re 2.6.18 -> 2.6.32 starlight
2011-10-07  5:40 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-07  6:13   ` starlight
2011-10-07 18:09     ` chetan loke
     [not found]       ` <CAAsGZS4s1wTWW1j7FRUWW9jqpPUVF3Q46AMa7+njvE1ckX0Snw @mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-07 18:37         ` starlight
2011-10-07 19:27           ` chetan loke
     [not found]             ` <CAAsGZS4b2F9N3nV3TNu5xG+=2d0L0ncste4xv2vqoVFb1pOxEw @mail.gmail.com>
2011-10-07 19:41               ` starlight [this message]
2011-10-07 20:07           ` Ben Hutchings
2011-10-11 16:24   ` Chris Friesen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-10-07  2:33 starlight
2011-10-07  2:24 starlight
2011-10-05  6:58 starlight
2011-10-05  8:53 ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]   ` <1317804832.2473.25.camel@edumazet-HP-Compaq-6005-Pr o-SFF-PC>
2011-10-05 11:50     ` starlight
2011-10-05  6:11 starlight
2011-10-05  3:35 starlight
2011-10-03 18:02 starlight
2011-10-05  6:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-03 15:25 starlight
2011-10-03 16:16 ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]   ` <1317658588.2442.5.camel@edumazet-HP-Compaq-6005-Pro -SFF-PC>
2011-10-03 16:28     ` starlight
2011-10-04 19:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-04 19:38   ` Joe Perches
2011-10-04 19:42     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-04 19:49       ` Serge Belyshev
2011-10-04 20:03         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-04 20:12           ` Serge Belyshev
2011-10-04 22:32             ` Con Kolivas
2011-10-04 19:45     ` starlight
2011-10-05 13:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-05 14:26     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-10-05 15:12       ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-05 15:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-05 15:12     ` starlight
2011-10-02  5:33 starlight
2011-10-02  7:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-02  8:03   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-02 14:47   ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-10-02 15:06   ` starlight
2011-10-04 19:54     ` Loke, Chetan
2011-10-01 21:13 starlight
2011-10-01 18:16 starlight
2011-10-01 18:40 ` Willy Tarreau
2011-10-01 19:11 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-01 19:43   ` starlight
     [not found] <6.2.5.6.2.20111001012019.05c05b80@flumedata.com>
2011-10-01  6:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-10-01 15:56   ` starlight

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