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From: Jay Vosburgh <jay.vosburgh@canonical.com>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, hannes@stressinduktion.org,
	edumazet@google.com, herbert@gondor.apana.org.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next] net: preserve geometry of fragment sizes when forwarding
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 12:34:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6079.1432064052@nyx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150519123415.GC5063@breakpoint.cc>

Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de> wrote:
[...]
> cons: doesn't resolve hypothetical(?) router edge cases:
>   #1. if we'd receive e.g. fragment size 1000 and fragment size
>   200, where both fragments have DF bit set, we will currently
>   send a single 1200 byte DF packet, if outdevice has mtu >= 1200.
>
>   This is because ip_finish_output() only fragments if skb->len > mtu.
>
>   #2 iff we do refragment (e.g. out mtu is 1000), we re-create fragments
>   of size 1000 and 200, but DF bit gets lost in the process.
>
>Neither seems to be a big problem, #2 doesn't break end-to-end connectivity,
>and #1 doesn't seem to happen in practice; else we should have seen
>bug reports by now.  However, I do feel uneasy about it and think we should
>fix it.

	FWIW, I've seen Openstack-based network topologies with local
customizations to take advantage of #1 to deliberately avoid
refragmentation on bridge egress.  In this case, the bridge egress port
is a veth device, and the bridge-side veth mtu is set higher than the
veth peer's mtu, which is in a container.  The veth driver does not
check mtu on transmit, so this "works."

	-J

---
	-Jay Vosburgh, jay.vosburgh@canonical.com

      reply	other threads:[~2015-05-19 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-07 21:04 [PATCH -next] net: preserve geometry of fragment sizes when forwarding Florian Westphal
2015-05-18 19:39 ` David Miller
2015-05-18 20:06   ` Florian Westphal
2015-05-18 20:28     ` David Miller
2015-05-18 20:40       ` Florian Westphal
2015-05-18 20:55         ` David Miller
2015-05-18 21:33           ` Florian Westphal
2015-05-18 22:50             ` Herbert Xu
2015-05-18 23:02               ` Florian Westphal
2015-05-18 23:20                 ` Herbert Xu
2015-05-18 23:51             ` David Miller
2015-05-19 12:34               ` Florian Westphal
2015-05-19 19:34                 ` Jay Vosburgh [this message]

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