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From: Ansuel Smith <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/7] DSA master state tracking
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 19:16:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61b24816.1c69fb81.c3a53.17cc@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211209175617.652rdiidc6pfgdwz@skbuf>

On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:56:17PM +0000, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 06:44:38PM +0100, Ansuel Smith wrote:
> > > I think the problem is that we also need to track the operstate of the
> > > master (netif_oper_up via NETDEV_CHANGE) before declaring it as good to go.
> > > You can see that this is exactly the line after which the timeouts disappear:
> > > 
> > > [    7.146901] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
> > > 
> > > I didn't really want to go there, because now I'm not sure how to
> > > synthesize the information for the switch drivers to consume it.
> > > Anyway I've prepared a v2 patchset and I'll send it out very soon.
> > 
> > Wonder if we should leave the driver decide when it's ready by parsing
> > the different state? (And change
> > the up ops to something like a generic change?)
> 
> There isn't just one state to track, which is precisely the problem that
> I had to deal with for v2. The master is operational during the time
> frame between NETDEV_UP and NETDEV_GOING_DOWN, intersected with the
> interval during which netif_oper_up(master) is true. So in the simple
> state propagation approach, DSA would need to provide at least two ops
> to switches, one for admin state and the other for oper state. And the
> switch driver would need to AND the two and keep state by itself.
> Letting the driver make the decision would have been acceptable to me if
> we could have 3 ops and a common implementation, something like this:
> 
> static void qca8k_master_state_change(struct dsa_switch *ds,
> 				      const struct dsa_master *master)
> {
> 	bool operational = (master->flags & IFF_UP) && netif_oper_up(master);
> }
> 
> 	.master_admin_state_change	= qca8k_master_state_change,
> 	.master_oper_state_change	= qca8k_master_state_change,
> 
> but the problem is that during NETDEV_GOING_DOWN, master->flags & IFF_UP
> is still true, so this wouldn't work. And replacing the NETDEV_GOING_DOWN
> notifier with the NETDEV_DOWN one would solve that problem, but it would
> no longer guarantee that the switch can disable this feature without
> timeouts before the master is down - because now it _is_ down.

Ok will have to test v2 and check if this is also fixed.

-- 
	Ansuel

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-09 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-08 22:32 [RFC PATCH net-next 0/7] DSA master state tracking Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/7] net: dsa: only bring down user ports assigned to a given DSA master Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 2/7] net: dsa: refactor the NETDEV_GOING_DOWN master tracking into separate function Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 3/7] net: dsa: use dsa_tree_for_each_user_port in dsa_tree_master_going_down() Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 4/7] net: dsa: provide switch operations for tracking the master state Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 5/7] net: dsa: stop updating master MTU from master.c Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 6/7] net: dsa: hold rtnl_mutex when calling dsa_master_{setup,teardown} Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 7/7] net: dsa: replay master state events in dsa_tree_{setup,teardown}_master Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-09  3:05 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 0/7] DSA master state tracking Ansuel Smith
2021-12-09 14:28   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-09 14:44     ` Ansuel Smith
2021-12-09 17:33       ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-09 17:44         ` Ansuel Smith
2021-12-09 17:56           ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-09 18:16             ` Ansuel Smith [this message]
2021-12-09 17:57           ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-09 18:34             ` Ansuel Smith

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