From: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
To: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Maxim Mikityanskiy <maximmi@nvidia.com>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, "Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, "Tariq Toukan" <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
"Martin KaFai Lau" <kafai@fb.com>,
"Song Liu" <songliubraving@fb.com>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Petar Penkov" <ppenkov@google.com>,
"Lorenz Bauer" <lmb@cloudflare.com>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Hideaki YOSHIFUJI" <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
"David Ahern" <dsahern@kernel.org>,
"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
"Nick Desaulniers" <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
"Joe Stringer" <joe@cilium.io>,
"Florent Revest" <revest@chromium.org>,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
"Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>,
"Florian Westphal" <fw@strlen.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/3] bpf: Add helpers to issue and check SYN cookies in XDP
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:19:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <61f852711e15a_92e0208ac@john.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61f850bdf1b23_8597208f8@john.notmuch>
John Fastabend wrote:
> Maxim Mikityanskiy wrote:
> > On 2022-01-25 09:54, John Fastabend wrote:
> > > Maxim Mikityanskiy wrote:
> > >> The new helpers bpf_tcp_raw_{gen,check}_syncookie allow an XDP program
> > >> to generate SYN cookies in response to TCP SYN packets and to check
> > >> those cookies upon receiving the first ACK packet (the final packet of
> > >> the TCP handshake).
> > >>
> > >> Unlike bpf_tcp_{gen,check}_syncookie these new helpers don't need a
> > >> listening socket on the local machine, which allows to use them together
> > >> with synproxy to accelerate SYN cookie generation.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Maxim Mikityanskiy <maximmi@nvidia.com>
> > >> Reviewed-by: Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>
> > >> ---
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > >> +
> > >> +BPF_CALL_4(bpf_tcp_raw_check_syncookie, void *, iph, u32, iph_len,
> > >> + struct tcphdr *, th, u32, th_len)
> > >> +{
> > >> +#ifdef CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES
> > >> + u32 cookie;
> > >> + int ret;
> > >> +
> > >> + if (unlikely(th_len < sizeof(*th)))
> > >> + return -EINVAL;
> > >> +
> > >> + if (!th->ack || th->rst || th->syn)
> > >> + return -EINVAL;
> > >> +
> > >> + if (unlikely(iph_len < sizeof(struct iphdr)))
> > >> + return -EINVAL;
> > >> +
> > >> + cookie = ntohl(th->ack_seq) - 1;
> > >> +
> > >> + /* Both struct iphdr and struct ipv6hdr have the version field at the
> > >> + * same offset so we can cast to the shorter header (struct iphdr).
> > >> + */
> > >> + switch (((struct iphdr *)iph)->version) {
> > >> + case 4:
> > >
> > > Did you consider just exposing __cookie_v4_check() and __cookie_v6_check()?
> >
> > No, I didn't, I just implemented it consistently with
> > bpf_tcp_check_syncookie, but let's consider it.
> >
> > I can't just pass a pointer from BPF without passing the size, so I
> > would need some wrappers around __cookie_v{4,6}_check anyway. The checks
> > for th_len and iph_len would have to stay in the helpers. The check for
> > TCP flags (ACK, !RST, !SYN) could be either in the helper or in BPF. The
> > switch would obviously be gone.
>
> I'm not sure you would need the len checks in helper, they provide
> some guarantees I guess, but the void * is just memory I don't see
> any checks on its size. It could be the last byte of a value for
> example?
I suspect we need to add verifier checks here anyways to ensure we don't
walk off the end of a value unless something else is ensuring the iph
is inside a valid memory block.
>
> >
> > The bottom line is that it would be the same code, but without the
> > switch, and repeated twice. What benefit do you see in this approach?
>
> The only benefit would be to shave some instructions off the program.
> XDP is about performance so I figure we shouldn't be adding arbitrary
> stuff here. OTOH you're already jumping into a helper so it might
> not matter at all.
>
> > From my side, I only see the ability to drop one branch at the expense
> > of duplicating the code above the switch (th_len and iph_len checks).
>
> Just not sure you need the checks either, can you just assume the user
> gives good data?
>
> >
> > > My code at least has already run the code above before it would ever call
> > > this helper so all the other bits are duplicate.
> >
> > Sorry, I didn't quite understand this part. What "your code" are you
> > referring to?
>
> Just that the XDP code I maintain has a if ipv4 {...} else ipv6{...}
> structure in it so could use a v4_check... and v6_check... then call
> the correct version directly, removing the switch from the helper.
>
> Do you think there could be a performance reason to drop out those
> instructions or is it just hid by the hash itself. Also it seems
> a bit annoying if user is calling multiple helpers and they keep
> doing the same checks over and over.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-31 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-24 15:13 [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/3] New BPF helpers to accelerate synproxy Maxim Mikityanskiy
2022-01-24 15:13 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/3] bpf: Make errors of bpf_tcp_check_syncookie distinguishable Maxim Mikityanskiy
2022-01-25 7:38 ` John Fastabend
2022-01-31 13:38 ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2022-01-24 15:13 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/3] bpf: Add helpers to issue and check SYN cookies in XDP Maxim Mikityanskiy
2022-01-25 7:54 ` John Fastabend
2022-01-31 13:38 ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2022-01-31 21:12 ` John Fastabend
2022-01-31 21:19 ` John Fastabend [this message]
2022-02-02 11:09 ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2022-02-04 2:50 ` John Fastabend
2022-02-04 14:08 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-02-21 14:26 ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2022-02-21 15:21 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-02-24 14:29 ` Maxim Mikityanskiy
2022-02-04 2:29 ` John Fastabend
2022-01-24 15:13 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 3/3] bpf: Add selftests for raw syncookie helpers Maxim Mikityanskiy
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