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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org,
	pabeni@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	alvaro.karsz@solid-run.com, vmireyno@marvell.com,
	parav@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [patch net-next v2] net: virtio_net: implement exact header length guest feature
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 12:22:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63f64f6053a19_189d62088a@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230222110534-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:14:21AM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > Either including the link that Michael shared or quoting the relevant
> > part verbatim in the commit message would help, thanks.
> > 
> > Thinking it over, my main concern is that the prescriptive section in
> > the spec does not state what to do when the value is clearly garbage,
> > as we have seen with syzkaller.
> > 
> > Having to sanitize input, by dropping if < ETH_HLEN or > length, to
> > me means that the device cannot trust the field, as the spec says it
> > should. 
> 
> Right. I think the implication is that if device detects and illegal
> value it's OK for it to just drop the packet or reset or enter
> a broken mode until reset.
> 
> By contrast without the feature bit the header size can be
> used as a hint e.g. to size allocations but you must
> recover if it's incorrect.
> 
> And yes tap seems to break if you make it too small or if you make
> it huge so it does not really follow the spec in this regard.
> 
> Setting the flag will not fix tap because we can't really
> affort breaking all drivers who don't set it. But it will
> prepare the ground for when tens of years from now we
> actually look back and say all drivers set it, no problem.
> 
> So that's a good reason to ack this patch.

I also have no concerns with the commit itself. It would become an
issue only if tap would support it and trust hdr_len unconditionally.

Acked-by: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
 
> However if someone is worried about this then fixing tap
> so it recovers from incorrect header length without
> packet loss is a good idea.
> 
> > Sanitization is harder in the kernel, because it has to support all
> > kinds of link layers, including variable length.
> > 
> > Perhaps that's a discussion for the spec rather than this commit. But
> > it's a point to clarify as we add support to the code.
> 
> -- 
> MST
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-22 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-21 14:47 [patch net-next v2] net: virtio_net: implement exact header length guest feature Jiri Pirko
2023-02-21 15:11 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-02-21 15:39   ` Jiri Pirko
2023-02-21 16:12     ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-02-22  7:58       ` Jiri Pirko
2023-02-22 15:14         ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-02-22 16:11           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 17:22             ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2023-02-21 17:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-21 15:20 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-21 15:26 ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-21 17:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22  7:59   ` Jiri Pirko

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