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From: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, edumazet@google.com,
	pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org, idosch@nvidia.com,
	kuniyu@amazon.com, Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] ipv4: prefer multipath nexthop that matches source address
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 09:06:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <649a886e-a914-433e-b6d2-152a69a0ad5d@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250420180537.2973960-2-willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>

On 4/20/25 12:04 PM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> From: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> 
> With multipath routes, try to ensure that packets leave on the device
> that is associated with the source address.
> 
> Avoid the following tcpdump example:
> 
>     veth0 Out IP 10.1.0.2.38640 > 10.2.0.3.8000: Flags [S]
>     veth1 Out IP 10.1.0.2.38648 > 10.2.0.3.8000: Flags [S]
> 
> Which can happen easily with the most straightforward setup:
> 
>     ip addr add 10.0.0.1/24 dev veth0
>     ip addr add 10.1.0.1/24 dev veth1
> 
>     ip route add 10.2.0.3 nexthop via 10.0.0.2 dev veth0 \
>     			  nexthop via 10.1.0.2 dev veth1
> 
> This is apparently considered WAI, based on the comment in
> ip_route_output_key_hash_rcu:
> 
>     * 2. Moreover, we are allowed to send packets with saddr
>     *    of another iface. --ANK
> 
> It may be ok for some uses of multipath, but not all. For instance,
> when using two ISPs, a router may drop packets with unknown source.
> 
> The behavior occurs because tcp_v4_connect makes three route
> lookups when establishing a connection:
> 
> 1. ip_route_connect calls to select a source address, with saddr zero.
> 2. ip_route_connect calls again now that saddr and daddr are known.
> 3. ip_route_newports calls again after a source port is also chosen.
> 
> With a route with multiple nexthops, each lookup may make a different
> choice depending on available entropy to fib_select_multipath. So it
> is possible for 1 to select the saddr from the first entry, but 3 to
> select the second entry. Leading to the above situation.
> 
> Address this by preferring a match that matches the flowi4 saddr. This
> will make 2 and 3 make the same choice as 1. Continue to update the
> backup choice until a choice that matches saddr is found.
> 
> Do this in fib_select_multipath itself, rather than passing an fl4_oif
> constraint, to avoid changing non-multipath route selection. Commit
> e6b45241c57a ("ipv4: reset flowi parameters on route connect") shows
> how that may cause regressions.
> 
> Also read ipv4.sysctl_fib_multipath_use_neigh only once. No need to
> refresh in the loop.
> 
> This does not happen in IPv6, which performs only one lookup.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> 
> Side-quest: I wonder if the second route lookup in ip_route_connect
> is vestigial since the introduction of the third route lookup with
> ip_route_newports. IPv6 has neither second nor third lookup, which
> hints that perhaps both can be removed.
> ---
>  include/net/ip_fib.h     |  3 ++-
>  net/ipv4/fib_semantics.c | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
>  net/ipv4/route.c         |  2 +-
>  3 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> 

Reviewed-by: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-22 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-20 18:04 [PATCH net-next 0/3] ip: improve tcp sock multipath routing Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-20 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] ipv4: prefer multipath nexthop that matches source address Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-22 16:06   ` David Ahern [this message]
2025-04-20 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] ip: load balance tcp connections to single dst addr and port Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-21 13:54   ` Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-22 16:41   ` David Ahern
2025-04-22 18:07     ` Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-20 18:04 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] selftests/net: test tcp connection load balancing Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-23  9:05   ` Ido Schimmel
2025-04-23 14:18     ` Willem de Bruijn

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