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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: "Singhai, Anjali" <anjali.singhai@intel.com>,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	 "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	 Boris Pismenny <borisp@nvidia.com>,
	 "gal@nvidia.com" <gal@nvidia.com>,
	 "cratiu@nvidia.com" <cratiu@nvidia.com>,
	 "rrameshbabu@nvidia.com" <rrameshbabu@nvidia.com>,
	 "steffen.klassert@secunet.com" <steffen.klassert@secunet.com>,
	 "tariqt@nvidia.com" <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	 "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	 "Acharya, Arun Kumar" <arun.kumar.acharya@intel.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC net-next 00/15] add basic PSP encryption for TCP connections
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:05:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66756c7626a34_2e038a294de@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CO1PR11MB49939F947A63E4A5F8C5246A93C82@CO1PR11MB4993.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

> > > 4. Why is the driver adding the PSP trailer? Hoping this is between the driver and the device, in our case it's the device that will add the trailer.
> 
> This for sure is by device or driver, ideally the device. Please comment.

Whether it is driver or device is a device specific implementation detail?

> A few more opens that we noticed later
> 
> 1. Key rotation should be triggered from the device as a master key in the device can be shared in a virtualized environment by many interfaces which would mean only the device can decide based on the following when to trigger the key rotation 
> 	1. Time out cannot be independent for each IKE but at a device level configuration.
> 	2.  SPI roll over, the SPI domain is again shared with multiple Interfaces that share the master key and only the device can trigger the rotation when this happens.
> 
> Apart from this, in a virtualized environment, a trigger from top (IKE down to device) to rotate the master key can cause unnecessary side effects to other interfaces that can be considered malicious.

It is possible to designate a privileged interface that is allowed to
request a key rotation. This should be supported.

For IDPF whether a driver is authorized to request a rotation can be
part of capability negotiation.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-21 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-18 23:54 [RFC net-next 00/15] add basic PSP encryption for TCP connections Singhai, Anjali
2024-06-19  8:39 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-06-19  8:47   ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-06-20 21:32   ` Singhai, Anjali
2024-06-21 12:05     ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2024-06-22  0:30     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-06-25 22:05       ` Singhai, Anjali
2024-06-25 23:17         ` Jakub Kicinski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-05-22 12:56 Paul Wouters
2024-05-22 13:03 ` Boris Pismenny
2024-05-28  9:42 ` Steffen Klassert
2024-05-28 13:49   ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-28 15:33     ` Paul Wouters
2024-05-28 18:09       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-28 18:11       ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-31  6:09     ` Steffen Klassert
2024-05-31 14:46       ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-05-10  3:04 Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-29  9:16 ` Boris Pismenny
2024-05-29 18:50   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-05-29 20:01     ` Boris Pismenny
2024-05-29 20:38       ` Jakub Kicinski

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