From: Ivan Vecera <ivecera@redhat.com>
To: Vadim Fedorenko <vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Arkadiusz Kubalewski <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
Prathosh Satish <Prathosh.Satish@microchip.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org,
Michal Schmidt <mschmidt@redhat.com>,
Petr Oros <poros@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/3] dpll: zl3073x: add hwmon support for input reference frequencies
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 17:04:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <66f8ab00-4058-489e-8a95-e6f8990f4732@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2ea6547d-aa47-4333-b569-3a10a8fa9988@linux.dev>
On 3/25/26 4:56 PM, Vadim Fedorenko wrote:
> On 25/03/2026 11:19, Ivan Vecera wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 3/24/26 10:36 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2026 13:59:19 +0100 Ivan Vecera wrote:
>>>>>> In the hardware monitoring world one would have min/max attributes
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> one or more alarm attributes. I never heard about the idea of
>>>>>> reporting
>>>>>> deviations, and for typical hardware monitoring attributes it does
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> really make sense. What would be a "deviation" of a temperature/
>>>>>> voltage/current/power/humidity sensor ? Such attributes typically
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> an operational range, and they are allowed and even expected to
>>>>>> fluctuate within that range.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ivan, my take on all the above is that using the HWmon interface
>>>>> here is
>>>>> stretching it too much. I think it would be better to move debugfs
>>>>> and/or netlink events.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather avoid debugfs... My proposal is to expose absolute measured
>>>> frequency attribute of dpll-pin and follow phase-offset-monitor
>>>> functionality:
>>>>
>>>> So:
>>>> * add real-frequency attribute to dpll pin
>>>> * add real-frequency-monitor attribute dpll device
>>>> * user will be able to enable/disable monitoring by enabling/disabling
>>>> real-frequency-monitor feature (similarly to phase-offset-monitor)
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> I don't have a strong opinion. IDK where to draw the line between DPLL
>>> and "random functionality some devices may have". We have 3 DPLL
>>> maintainers, let's see what their majority opinion is..
>>
>> I think that line has already been crossed by temperature reporting,
>> which has been there since the beginning. Actual frequency measurement
>> is, in my opinion, much closer to the DPLL world than temperature
>> reporting. :-)
>
> Frequency measurements are DPLL-world properties indeed. Temperature
> reporting was added as it has some influence on the stability of DPLL
> devices as well as on any oscillators.
>
>> Anyway, I have the relevant patch-set already prepared, so I can submit
>> it if you want to see it.
> Feel free to submit, I'll be happy to review it.
>
Thanks, will do..
Ivan
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-25 16:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-20 10:59 [PATCH net-next 0/3] dpll: zl3073x: add hwmon support Ivan Vecera
2026-03-20 10:59 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] dpll: zl3073x: add hwmon support for die temperature Ivan Vecera
2026-03-20 10:59 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] dpll: zl3073x: add input reference frequency measurement Ivan Vecera
2026-03-20 10:59 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] dpll: zl3073x: add hwmon support for input reference frequencies Ivan Vecera
2026-03-20 12:21 ` Guenter Roeck
2026-03-20 13:48 ` Ivan Vecera
2026-03-23 22:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-24 5:16 ` Guenter Roeck
2026-03-24 10:49 ` Paolo Abeni
2026-03-24 12:59 ` Ivan Vecera
2026-03-24 21:36 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-03-25 11:19 ` Ivan Vecera
2026-03-25 15:56 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2026-03-25 16:04 ` Ivan Vecera [this message]
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=66f8ab00-4058-489e-8a95-e6f8990f4732@redhat.com \
--to=ivecera@redhat.com \
--cc=Prathosh.Satish@microchip.com \
--cc=arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com \
--cc=horms@kernel.org \
--cc=jiri@resnulli.us \
--cc=kuba@kernel.org \
--cc=linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux@roeck-us.net \
--cc=mschmidt@redhat.com \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=pabeni@redhat.com \
--cc=poros@redhat.com \
--cc=vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox