From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: stsp <stsp2@yandex.ru>,
Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, agx@sigxcpu.org,
jdike@linux.intel.com, Guido Guenther <agx@sigxcpu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] tun: fix group permission check
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 09:56:16 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <673ca7102dba5_2a097e2948f@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <610a9e2a-aa6b-4a2a-ac5d-3ea597b16430@yandex.ru>
stsp wrote:
> 17.11.2024 18:04, Willem de Bruijn пишет:
> > Stas Sergeev wrote:
> >> Currently tun checks the group permission even if the user have matched.
> >> Besides going against the usual permission semantic, this has a
> >> very interesting implication: if the tun group is not among the
> >> supplementary groups of the tun user, then effectively no one can
> >> access the tun device. CAP_SYS_ADMIN still can, but its the same as
> >> not setting the tun ownership.
> >>
> >> This patch relaxes the group checking so that either the user match
> >> or the group match is enough. This avoids the situation when no one
> >> can access the device even though the ownership is properly set.
> >>
> >> Also I simplified the logic by removing the redundant inversions:
> >> tun_not_capable() --> !tun_capable()
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Stas Sergeev <stsp2@yandex.ru>
> > This behavior goes back through many patches to commit 8c644623fe7e:
> >
> > [NET]: Allow group ownership of TUN/TAP devices.
> >
> > Introduce a new syscall TUNSETGROUP for group ownership setting of tap
> > devices. The user now is allowed to send packages if either his euid or
> > his egid matches the one specified via tunctl (via -u or -g
> > respecitvely). If both, gid and uid, are set via tunctl, both have to
> > match.
> >
> > The choice evidently was on purpose. Even if indeed non-standard.
>
> So what would you suggest?
> Added Guido Guenther <agx@sigxcpu.org> to CC
> for an opinion.
> The main problem here is that by
> setting user and group properly, you
> end up with device inaccessible by
> anyone, unless the user belongs to
> the tun group. I don't think someone
> wants to set up inaccessible devices,
> so this property doesn't seem useful.
> OTOH if the user does have that group
> in his list, then, AFAICT, adding such
> group to tun changes nothing: neither
> limits nor extends the scope.
> If you had group already set and you
> set also user, then you limit the scope,
> but its the same as just setting user alone.
> So I really can't think of any valid usage
> scenario of setting both tun user and tun
> group.
Understood. If no one comments before the window reopens, I think it's
fine to just resubmit.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-19 14:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-17 9:05 [PATCH net-next] tun: fix group permission check Stas Sergeev
2024-11-17 15:04 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-11-18 21:40 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-11-19 10:51 ` Paolo Abeni
2024-11-19 10:54 ` stsp
2024-11-19 9:42 ` stsp
2024-11-19 14:56 ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-12-05 7:36 Stas Sergeev
2024-12-05 16:50 ` Willem de Bruijn
2024-12-06 2:42 ` Jason Wang
2024-12-08 1:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-08 1:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-08 6:53 ` stsp
2024-12-09 21:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-09 21:53 ` stsp
2024-12-08 1:50 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
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