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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,  davem@davemloft.net,  kuba@kernel.org,
	 edumazet@google.com,  pabeni@redhat.com,  dsahern@kernel.org,
	 horms@kernel.org,  kuniyu@amazon.com,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/3] ipv4: prefer multipath nexthop that matches source address
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 11:01:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <680cf54b983d5_193a06294ab@willemb.c.googlers.com.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aAujZJXqlG8VZpJF@shredder>

Ido Schimmel wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 10:35:18AM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > From: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> > 
> > With multipath routes, try to ensure that packets leave on the device
> > that is associated with the source address.
> > 
> > Avoid the following tcpdump example:
> > 
> >     veth0 Out IP 10.1.0.2.38640 > 10.2.0.3.8000: Flags [S]
> >     veth1 Out IP 10.1.0.2.38648 > 10.2.0.3.8000: Flags [S]
> > 
> > Which can happen easily with the most straightforward setup:
> > 
> >     ip addr add 10.0.0.1/24 dev veth0
> >     ip addr add 10.1.0.1/24 dev veth1
> > 
> >     ip route add 10.2.0.3 nexthop via 10.0.0.2 dev veth0 \
> >     			  nexthop via 10.1.0.2 dev veth1
> > 
> > This is apparently considered WAI, based on the comment in
> > ip_route_output_key_hash_rcu:
> > 
> >     * 2. Moreover, we are allowed to send packets with saddr
> >     *    of another iface. --ANK
> > 
> > It may be ok for some uses of multipath, but not all. For instance,
> > when using two ISPs, a router may drop packets with unknown source.
> > 
> > The behavior occurs because tcp_v4_connect makes three route
> > lookups when establishing a connection:
> > 
> > 1. ip_route_connect calls to select a source address, with saddr zero.
> > 2. ip_route_connect calls again now that saddr and daddr are known.
> > 3. ip_route_newports calls again after a source port is also chosen.
> > 
> > With a route with multiple nexthops, each lookup may make a different
> > choice depending on available entropy to fib_select_multipath. So it
> > is possible for 1 to select the saddr from the first entry, but 3 to
> > select the second entry. Leading to the above situation.
> > 
> > Address this by preferring a match that matches the flowi4 saddr. This
> > will make 2 and 3 make the same choice as 1. Continue to update the
> > backup choice until a choice that matches saddr is found.
> > 
> > Do this in fib_select_multipath itself, rather than passing an fl4_oif
> > constraint, to avoid changing non-multipath route selection. Commit
> > e6b45241c57a ("ipv4: reset flowi parameters on route connect") shows
> > how that may cause regressions.
> > 
> > Also read ipv4.sysctl_fib_multipath_use_neigh only once. No need to
> > refresh in the loop.
> > 
> > This does not happen in IPv6, which performs only one lookup.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> > Reviewed-by: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
> 
> Reviewed-by: Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>
> 
> One note below
> 
> [...]
> 
> > -void fib_select_multipath(struct fib_result *res, int hash)
> > +void fib_select_multipath(struct fib_result *res, int hash,
> > +			  const struct flowi4 *fl4)
> >  {
> >  	struct fib_info *fi = res->fi;
> >  	struct net *net = fi->fib_net;
> > -	bool first = false;
> > +	bool found = false;
> > +	bool use_neigh;
> > +	__be32 saddr;
> >  
> >  	if (unlikely(res->fi->nh)) {
> >  		nexthop_path_fib_result(res, hash);
> >  		return;
> >  	}
> >  
> > +	use_neigh = READ_ONCE(net->ipv4.sysctl_fib_multipath_use_neigh);
> > +	saddr = fl4 ? fl4->saddr : 0;
> > +
> >  	change_nexthops(fi) {
> > -		if (READ_ONCE(net->ipv4.sysctl_fib_multipath_use_neigh)) {
> > -			if (!fib_good_nh(nexthop_nh))
> > -				continue;
> > -			if (!first) {
> > -				res->nh_sel = nhsel;
> > -				res->nhc = &nexthop_nh->nh_common;
> > -				first = true;
> > -			}
> > +		if (use_neigh && !fib_good_nh(nexthop_nh))
> > +			continue;
> > +
> > +		if (!found) {
> > +			res->nh_sel = nhsel;
> > +			res->nhc = &nexthop_nh->nh_common;
> > +			found = !saddr || nexthop_nh->nh_saddr == saddr;
> >  		}
> >  
> >  		if (hash > atomic_read(&nexthop_nh->fib_nh_upper_bound))
> >  			continue;
> 
> Note that because 'res' is set before comparing the hash with the hash
> threshold, it's possible to choose a nexthop that does not have a
> carrier (they are assigned a hash threshold of -1), whereas this did
> not happen before. Tested with [1].

This is different from the previous pre-threshold choice if !first,
because that choice was always tested with fib_good_nh(), while now
that is optional?

> I guess it's not a problem in practice because the initial route lookup
> for the source address wouldn't have chosen the linkdown nexthop to
> begin with.

Agreed. Thanks for the thorough review.
 
> >  
> > -		res->nh_sel = nhsel;
> > -		res->nhc = &nexthop_nh->nh_common;
> > -		return;
> > +		if (!saddr || nexthop_nh->nh_saddr == saddr) {
> > +			res->nh_sel = nhsel;
> > +			res->nhc = &nexthop_nh->nh_common;
> > +			return;
> > +		}
> > +
> > +		if (found)
> > +			return;
> > +
> >  	} endfor_nexthops(fi);
> >  }
> 
> [1]
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> ip link del dev dummy1 &> /dev/null
> ip link del dev dummy2 &> /dev/null
> 
> ip link add name dummy1 up type dummy
> ip link add name dummy2 up type dummy
> ip address add 192.0.2.1/28 dev dummy1
> ip address add 192.0.2.17/28 dev dummy2
> ip route add 192.0.2.32/28 \
> 	nexthop via 192.0.2.2 dev dummy1 \
> 	nexthop via 192.0.2.18 dev dummy2
> 
> ip link set dev dummy2 carrier off
> sysctl -wq net.ipv4.fib_multipath_hash_policy=1
> sysctl -wq net.ipv4.conf.all.ignore_routes_with_linkdown=1
> 
> sleep 1
> 
> ip route show 192.0.2.32/28
> for i in {1..100}; do
> 	ip route get to 192.0.2.33 from 192.0.2.17 ipproto tcp sport $i dport $i | grep dummy2
> done



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-26 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-24 14:35 [PATCH net-next v2 0/3] ip: improve tcp sock multipath routing Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-24 14:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/3] ipv4: prefer multipath nexthop that matches source address Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-24 16:47   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-04-25 14:59   ` Ido Schimmel
2025-04-26 15:01     ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2025-04-27 17:30       ` Ido Schimmel
2025-04-28 16:26         ` Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-29  7:54           ` Ido Schimmel
2025-04-24 14:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/3] ip: load balance tcp connections to single dst addr and port Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-24 16:05   ` David Ahern
2025-04-24 16:51   ` Eric Dumazet
2025-04-25 15:14   ` Ido Schimmel
2025-04-24 14:35 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/3] selftests/net: test tcp connection load balancing Willem de Bruijn
2025-04-25 15:47   ` Ido Schimmel
2025-04-29 14:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/3] ip: improve tcp sock multipath routing patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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