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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Vasilij Strassheim <v.strassheim@linutronix.de>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Martin Kaistra <martin.kaistra@linutronix.de>,
	Benedikt Spranger <b.spranger@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 2/8] dt-bindings: net: Add SoC-e SWIP MDIO controller
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2026 20:24:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a635aa0-3489-4d2b-b302-06b793326654@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ad24be6928e33b544f9c8c72ea05f64c2968035f.camel@linutronix.de>

On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 07:13:35PM +0200, Vasilij Strassheim wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-09-30 at 17:14 +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 04:00:56PM +0200, Vasilij Strassheim wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2026-09-26 at 00:55 +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > > > The controller exposes separate register regions for transaction data
> > > > > and for the shared transaction control and external bus selector
> > > > > register.
> > > > 
> > > > > +examples:
> > > > > +  - |
> > > > > +    mdio@204 {
> > > > > +        compatible = "soce,swip-mdio-23-02";
> > > > > +        reg = <0x204 0xc>, <0x200 0x4>;
> > > > 
> > > > At least in the example, they are not separate?
> > > 
> > > Not separate regions but registers...
> > > I'm obviously bad at documenting things.
> > > 
> > > The current information in the commit message is misleading and
> > > irrelevant. Looking at the bot's feedback, it's at the same time not
> > > clear enough yet that the mdio controller part is mapped within the
> > > switch memory and can't be used separately from it.
> > > 
> > > I will update the commit message to something like this:
> > > Add a binding for the MDIO controller integrated into SoC-e SWIP
> > > Ethernet switch IP cores.
> > > The controller shares the memory of the synthesized switch IP core and
> > > cannot be used independently.
> > 
> > I think part of the issue is the compatible. That suggests it is a
> > separate device, with its own driver. But it is actually driven by the
> > switch driver.
> 
> I can't avoid the compatible right now. Somehow it is still a separate
> functionality. I hope the following example doesn't cause unnecessary
> confusion, but rather helps to understand the system better:
> 
> The relationship between the MDIO controller and the switch core is more
> like that of tools in a Swiss Army knife.
> There are a few standalone tools, such as the knife and the screwdriver.
> These can also be described on their own. But they only make sense when
> they are attached to the knife as a whole. As soon as one takes it
> apart, the individual tools can no longer be used effectively. At the
> same time, no one needs to worry about the screwdriver if they only need
> the knife.

Maybe consider an MFD.

You then do get independent devices.

Also, with the current structure, i'm not sure how the mdio-mux is
getting instantiated. You list it inside the switch node, so i don't
think i will get turned into a platform device and probed. An MFD
might helper, maybe.

There are other switches which are described as MFD, so it is not
unknown.

      Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-30 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-23 10:39 [PATCH net-next v3 0/8] net: dsa: Add SoC-e DSA driver Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-23 10:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 1/8] dt-bindings: vendor-prefixes: Add soce Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-23 10:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 2/8] dt-bindings: net: Add SoC-e SWIP MDIO controller Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-25 22:55   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-30 14:00     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-30 15:14       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-30 17:13         ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-30 18:24           ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2026-10-05 20:01             ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-27 12:28   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-07  7:43     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-23 10:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 3/8] dt-bindings: net: dsa: Add SoC-e SWIP switch Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-25 23:05   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-30 17:16     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-27 12:28   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-07 20:54   ` Rob Herring
2026-10-08  9:50     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-10-08 12:05       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-10-08 12:52         ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-23 10:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 4/8] net: dsa: Add tag handling for SoC-e switches Vasilij Strassheim
     [not found]   ` <20260924104003.A49F31F000FF@smtp.kernel.org>
2026-09-25 12:46     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-27 12:28   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-07  9:09     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-23 10:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 5/8] net: mdio: Add SoC-e SWIP MDIO controller driver Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-25 23:10   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-30 17:23     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-30 18:20       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-27 12:28   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-07  9:31     ` Vasilij Strassheim
     [not found]   ` <20260924104004.773F61F00899@smtp.kernel.org>
2026-10-06  7:14     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-23 10:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 6/8] net: dsa: soce: Add basic support for SoC-e switch IP cores Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-25 23:17   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-30 17:26     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-25 23:20   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-30 18:15     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-30 18:29       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-30 18:49         ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-27 12:28   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-07  9:55     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-23 10:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 7/8] net: dsa: soce: Add VLAN offload support Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-25 23:32   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-30 18:32     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-27 12:28   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-08 15:22     ` Vasilij Strassheim
     [not found]   ` <20260924104005.597041F00898@smtp.kernel.org>
2026-10-06 12:52     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-23 10:39 ` [PATCH net-next v3 8/8] net: dsa: soce: Disable unsupported hardware STP Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-25 23:24   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-30 18:29     ` Vasilij Strassheim
2026-09-30 18:41       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-09-27 12:28   ` netdev-bot+sashiko

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