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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
Cc: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	"Herve Codina" <herve.codina@bootlin.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Vladimir Oltean" <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	"Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>,
	"Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
	"Oleksij Rempel" <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 7/9] net: phy: introduce ethtool_phy_ops to get and set phy configuration
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 15:01:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6bdaf8de-8f7e-42db-8c29-1e8a48c4ddda@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241007123751.3df87430@device-21.home>

> It seems I am missing details in my cover and the overall work I'm
> trying to achieve.
> 
> This series focuses on isolating the PHY in the case where only one
> PHY is attached to the MAC.

I can understand implementing building blocks, but this patchset seems
to be more than that, it seems to be a use case of its own. But is
isolating a single PHY a useful use case? Do we want a kAPI for this?

> I have followup work to support multi-PHY
> interfaces. I will do my best to send the RFC this week so that you can
> take a look. I'm definitely not saying the current code supports that.
> 
> To tell you some details, it indeed works as Russell says, I
> detach/re-attach the PHYs, ndev->phydev is the "currently active" PHY.
> 
> I'm using a new dedicated "struct phy_mux" for that, which has :
> 
>  - Parent ops (that would be filled either by the MAC, or by phylink,
> in the same spirit as phylink can be an sfp_upstream), which manages
> PHY attach / detach to the netdev, but also the state-machine or the
> currently inactive PHY.
> 
>  - multiplexer ops, that implement the switching logic, if any (drive a
> GPIO, write a register, this is in the case of real multiplexers like
> we have on some of the Turris Omnia boards, which the phy_mux framework
> would support)
> 
>  - child ops, that would be hooks to activate/deactivate a PHY itself
> (isoalte/unisolate, power-up/power-down).

Does the kAPI for a single PHY get used, and extended, in this setup?

> I'll send the RFC ASAP, I still have a few rough edges that I will
> mention in the cover.
> 
> > However, I still want to hear whether multiple PHYs can be on the same
> > MII bus from a functional electrical perspective.
> 
> Yup, I have that hardware.

Can you talk a bit more about that hardware? What PHYs do you have?
What interface modes are they using?

	Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-07 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-04 16:15 [PATCH net-next v2 0/9] Allow isolating PHY devices Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 16:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/9] net: phy: allow " Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 16:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/9] net: phy: Introduce phy_shutdown for device quiescence Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 16:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/9] net: phy: Allow PHY drivers to report isolation support Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 16:46   ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-10-07  9:52     ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 18:20   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-07 10:27     ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 16:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/9] net: phy: lxt: Mark LXT973 PHYs as having a broken isolate mode Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 16:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/9] net: phy: marvell10g: 88x3310 and 88x3340 don't support " Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 16:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/9] net: phy: marvell: mv88e1111 doesn't support isolate in SGMII mode Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 16:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/9] net: phy: introduce ethtool_phy_ops to get and set phy configuration Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 18:42   ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-04 19:02     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-10-07 10:37       ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-07 13:01         ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2024-10-07 13:48           ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-07 16:10             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-10-08  7:07               ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-07 16:37             ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-08  7:25               ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-08 13:00                 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-08 13:22                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-10-08 14:57                   ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-08 15:27                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-10-08 16:41                       ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-08 17:05                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-10-08 17:19                           ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 16:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 8/9] net: ethtool: phy: allow reporting and setting the phy isolate status Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 16:15 ` [PATCH net-next v2 9/9] netlink: specs: introduce phy-set command along with configurable attributes Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-04 17:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/9] Allow isolating PHY devices Russell King (Oracle)
2024-10-07 10:25   ` Maxime Chevallier
2024-10-07 15:53     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-10-07 16:43       ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-08  6:28       ` Maxime Chevallier

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