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([2603:8080:2300:de:3d70:f8:6869:93de]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 46e09a7af769-700a8037e37sm340635a34.78.2024.06.22.13.11.32 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 22 Jun 2024 13:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6d51478f-2311-4f33-88d4-ff20d89fe621@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 15:11:32 -0500 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: fix links to mailing list services To: Konstantin Ryabitsev , Jonathan Corbet , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org References: <20240618-docs-patch-msgid-link-v1-0-30555f3f5ad4@linuxfoundation.org> <20240618-docs-patch-msgid-link-v1-1-30555f3f5ad4@linuxfoundation.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Carlos Bilbao In-Reply-To: <20240618-docs-patch-msgid-link-v1-1-30555f3f5ad4@linuxfoundation.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 6/18/24 11:42, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > There have been some changes to the way mailing lists are hosted at > kernel.org, so fix the links that are pointing at the outdated > resources. > > Signed-off-by: Konstantin Ryabitsev > --- > Documentation/process/2.Process.rst | 8 ++++---- > Documentation/process/howto.rst | 10 +++++----- > Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst | 5 ++--- > Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst | 5 ++--- > Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 15 +++++---------- > 5 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst > index 613a01da4717..ef3b116492df 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/2.Process.rst > @@ -392,13 +392,13 @@ represent a potential hazard to developers, who risk getting buried under a > load of electronic mail, running afoul of the conventions used on the Linux > lists, or both. > > -Most kernel mailing lists are run on vger.kernel.org; the master list can > +Most kernel mailing lists are hosted at kernel.org; the master list can > be found at: > > - http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html > + https://subspace.kernel.org > > -There are lists hosted elsewhere, though; a number of them are at > -redhat.com/mailman/listinfo. > +There are lists hosted elsewhere; please check the MAINTAINERS file for > +the list relevant for any particular subsystem. > > The core mailing list for kernel development is, of course, linux-kernel. > This list is an intimidating place to be; volume can reach 500 messages per > diff --git a/Documentation/process/howto.rst b/Documentation/process/howto.rst > index eebda4910a88..9438e03d6f50 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/howto.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/howto.rst > @@ -331,7 +331,7 @@ they need to be integration-tested. For this purpose, a special > testing repository exists into which virtually all subsystem trees are > pulled on an almost daily basis: > > - https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git > + https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git > > This way, the linux-next gives a summary outlook onto what will be > expected to go into the mainline kernel at the next merge period. > @@ -373,12 +373,12 @@ As some of the above documents describe, the majority of the core kernel > developers participate on the Linux Kernel Mailing list. Details on how > to subscribe and unsubscribe from the list can be found at: > > - http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-kernel > + https://subspace.kernel.org/subscribing.html > > There are archives of the mailing list on the web in many different > places. Use a search engine to find these archives. For example: > > - https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/ > + https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kernel/ > > It is highly recommended that you search the archives about the topic > you want to bring up, before you post it to the list. A lot of things > @@ -393,13 +393,13 @@ groups. > Many of the lists are hosted on kernel.org. Information on them can be > found at: > > - http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html > + https://subspace.kernel.org > > Please remember to follow good behavioral habits when using the lists. > Though a bit cheesy, the following URL has some simple guidelines for > interacting with the list (or any list): > > - http://www.albion.com/netiquette/ > + https://subspace.kernel.org/etiquette.html > > If multiple people respond to your mail, the CC: list of recipients may > get pretty large. Don't remove anybody from the CC: list without a good > diff --git a/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst b/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst > index 8660493b91d0..3476fb854c7a 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/kernel-docs.rst > @@ -194,9 +194,8 @@ Miscellaneous > > * Name: **linux-kernel mailing list archives and search engines** > > - :URL: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html > - :URL: http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/index.html > - :URL: http://groups.google.com/group/mlist.linux.kernel > + :URL: https://subspace.kernel.org > + :URL: https://lore.kernel.org Nice! Reviewed-by: Carlos Bilbao > :Keywords: linux-kernel, archives, search. > :Description: Some of the linux-kernel mailing list archivers. If > you have a better/another one, please let me know. > diff --git a/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst b/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst > index 5e1fcfad1c4c..fe8616397d63 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/maintainer-netdev.rst > @@ -25,9 +25,8 @@ drivers/net (i.e. hardware specific drivers) in the Linux source tree. > Note that some subsystems (e.g. wireless drivers) which have a high > volume of traffic have their own specific mailing lists and trees. > > -The netdev list is managed (like many other Linux mailing lists) through > -VGER (http://vger.kernel.org/) with archives available at > -https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/ > +Like many other Linux mailing lists, the netdev list is hosted at > +kernel.org with archives available at https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/. > > Aside from subsystems like those mentioned above, all network-related > Linux development (i.e. RFC, review, comments, etc.) takes place on > diff --git a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > index 66029999b587..f310f2f36666 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > @@ -119,10 +119,10 @@ web, point to it. > > When linking to mailing list archives, preferably use the lore.kernel.org > message archiver service. To create the link URL, use the contents of the > -``Message-Id`` header of the message without the surrounding angle brackets. > +``Message-ID`` header of the message without the surrounding angle brackets. > For example:: > > - Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/30th.anniversary.repost@klaava.Helsinki.FI/ > + Link: https://lore.kernel.org/30th.anniversary.repost@klaava.Helsinki.FI > > Please check the link to make sure that it is actually working and points > to the relevant message. > @@ -243,11 +243,9 @@ linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org should be used by default for all patches, but the > volume on that list has caused a number of developers to tune it out. Please > do not spam unrelated lists and unrelated people, though. > > -Many kernel-related lists are hosted on vger.kernel.org; you can find a > -list of them at http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html. There are > -kernel-related lists hosted elsewhere as well, though. > - > -Do not send more than 15 patches at once to the vger mailing lists!!! > +Many kernel-related lists are hosted at kernel.org; you can find a list > +of them at https://subspace.kernel.org. There are kernel-related lists > +hosted elsewhere as well, though. > > Linus Torvalds is the final arbiter of all changes accepted into the > Linux kernel. His e-mail address is . > @@ -866,9 +864,6 @@ Greg Kroah-Hartman, "How to piss off a kernel subsystem maintainer". > > > > -NO!!!! No more huge patch bombs to linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org people! > - > - > Kernel Documentation/process/coding-style.rst > > Linus Torvalds's mail on the canonical patch format: > Thanks, Carlos