From: Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Jes Sorensen <jsorensen@fb.com>
Cc: Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@mellanox.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>,
Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: mlx5 broken affinity
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 08:19:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6ee51a50-81a6-61d6-2e08-f9d4ffb3aacf@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69a46009-184f-d925-289c-6036f0bf2554@grimberg.me>
On 11/09/2017 03:50 AM, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> Thomas,
>
>>> Because the user sometimes knows better based on statically assigned
>>> loads, or the user wants consistency across kernels. It's great that the
>>> system is better at allocating this now, but we also need to allow for a
>>> user to change it. Like anything on Linux, a user wanting to blow off
>>> his/her own foot, should be allowed to do so.
>>
>> That's fine, but that's not what the managed affinity facility provides. If
>> you want to leverage the spread mechanism, but avoid the managed part, then
>> this is a different story and we need to figure out how to provide that
>> without breaking the managed side of it.
>>
>> As I said it's possible, but I vehemently disagree, that this is a bug in
>> the core code, as it was claimed several times in this thread.
>>
>> The real issue is that the driver was converted to something which was
>> expected to behave differently. That's hardly a bug in the core code, at
>> most it's a documentation problem.
>
> I disagree here, this is not a device specific discussion. The question
> of exposing IRQ affinity assignment knob to user-space holds for every
> device (NICs, HBAs and alike). The same issue could have been raised on
> any other device using managed affinitization (and we have quite a few
> of those now). I can't see any reason why its OK for device X to use it
> while its not OK for device Y to use it.
>
> If the resolution is "YES we must expose a knob to user-space" then the
> managed facility is unusable in its current form for *any* device. If
> the answer is "NO, user-space can't handle all the stuff the kernel can"
> then we should document it. This is really device independent.
Completely agree, and honestly I'm pretty baffled we're even having
to argue this point.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-09 15:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-01 16:19 mlx5 broken affinity Jes Sorensen
2017-11-01 17:21 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-01 18:20 ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-01 22:41 ` Saeed Mahameed
2017-11-01 23:02 ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-02 8:28 ` Tariq Toukan
2017-11-02 10:08 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-02 12:13 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-11-02 14:48 ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-02 16:14 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-02 17:13 ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-02 18:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-05 8:36 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-07 15:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-08 7:27 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-08 12:21 ` David Laight
2017-11-08 16:13 ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 10:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-09 15:18 ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 15:08 ` Saeed Mahameed
2017-11-09 15:40 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-08 16:19 ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-08 17:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 10:50 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-09 14:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 15:21 ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 17:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 20:11 ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 21:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 21:30 ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 21:42 ` [RFD] Managed interrupt affinities [ Was: mlx5 broken affinity ] Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-10 5:56 ` Saeed Mahameed
2017-11-10 13:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-13 19:20 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-13 20:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-13 21:13 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-13 21:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-13 21:49 ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-14 10:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 16:01 ` mlx5 broken affinity Sagi Grimberg
2017-11-09 16:09 ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 17:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 20:12 ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09 21:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-09 15:19 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2017-11-09 22:03 ` Jes Sorensen
2017-11-02 7:57 ` Sagi Grimberg
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