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From: Lee Trager <lee@trager.us>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"Srinivasan, Vijay" <vijay.srinivasan@intel.com>
Cc: "Das, Shubham" <shubham.das@intel.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mkubecek@suse.cz" <mkubecek@suse.cz>,
	"D H, Siddaraju" <siddaraju.dh@intel.com>,
	"Chintalapalle, Balaji" <balaji.chintalapalle@intel.com>,
	"Lindberg, Magnus" <magnus.k.lindberg@ericsson.com>,
	"niklas.damberg@ericsson.com" <niklas.damberg@ericsson.com>,
	"Wirandi, Jonas" <jonas.wirandi@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: Ethtool : PRBS feature
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 16:28:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <705f6fcb-e0e2-4898-bf83-78c38f32f505@trager.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26d44b09-d72c-4e23-84a6-3d0ea4a521ef@lunn.ch>

On 7/1/26 3:02 PM, Andrew Lunn wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 09:38:08PM +0000, Srinivasan, Vijay wrote:
>> Hi Andrew,
>> I think there is a disconnect here.
> Which proves my point. The specification is not sufficient if you have
> to keep correcting me.
>
> The kAPI should be understandable by somebody who has a general
> networking background. Please write a specification with that
> assumption in mind. Don't assume the reader is a test engineer who has
> used PRBS for half his life. Assume it is a brand new test engineer
> who is hearing PRBS for the first time. That is what most engineers on
> the netdev list are. Me included.

I think part of the disconnect is that PRBS testing is a signal 
integrity test, not a network test. In this case the phy happens to be 
Ethernet but it could just as easily be PCIE or USB. That is why it was 
heavily suggested to me at netdev 0x19 that this should be done on the 
generic phy layer, not netdev.

Lee


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-01 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-11  9:37 Ethtool : PRBS feature Das, Shubham
2026-06-11 15:43 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-16 12:14   ` Das, Shubham
2026-06-16 16:14     ` Alexander H Duyck
2026-06-19 16:26       ` Das, Shubham
2026-06-19 18:37         ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-20 13:48           ` Das, Shubham
2026-06-20 14:39             ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-06-20 19:20               ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-22 15:10                 ` Das, Shubham
2026-06-22 15:38               ` Das, Shubham
2026-06-22 18:11                 ` Lee Trager
2026-06-23  9:43                 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-23 17:10                   ` Lee Trager
     [not found]                   ` <08f1b0c2-2b09-4c30-b95a-02959d409a03@trager.us>
2026-06-24  2:30                     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-24 15:35                       ` Alexander Duyck
2026-06-29 16:15                         ` Das, Shubham
2026-06-29 16:56                           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-07-01 17:10                             ` Das, Shubham
2026-07-01 17:32                               ` Andrew Lunn
     [not found]                                 ` <BL3PR11MB63854B0A4AA33A718D474C6588F62@BL3PR11MB6385.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
2026-07-01 21:38                                   ` Srinivasan, Vijay
2026-07-01 22:02                                     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-07-01 23:28                                       ` Lee Trager [this message]
2026-07-01 23:15                           ` Lee Trager

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