From: Jay Vosburgh <jv@jvosburgh.net>
To: Louis Scalbert <louis.scalbert@6wind.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, andrew+netdev@lunn.ch,
edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com,
fbl@redhat.com, andy@greyhouse.net, shemminger@vyatta.com,
maheshb@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3 1/5] bonding: 3ad: add lacp_fallback configuration knob
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 09:45:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <707555.1776098758@famine> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260408152353.276204-2-louis.scalbert@6wind.com>
Louis Scalbert <louis.scalbert@6wind.com> wrote:
>When an 802.3ad (LACP) bonding interface has no slaves in the
>collecting/distributing state, the bonding master still reports
>carrier as up as long as at least 'min_links' slaves have carrier.
>
>In this situation, only one slave is effectively used for TX/RX,
>while traffic received on other slaves is dropped. Upper-layer
>daemons therefore consider the interface operational, even though
>traffic may be blackholed if the lack of LACP negotiation means
>the partner is not ready to deal with traffic.
>
>Introduce a configuration knob to control this behavior. It allows
>the bonding master to assert carrier only when at least 'min_links'
>slaves are in collecting/distributing state (or collecting only
>when coupled_control is disabled).
>
>The default mode preserves the current (legacy) behavior. This
>patch only introduces the knob; its behavior is implemented in
>the subsequent commit.
>
>Fixes: 655f8919d549 ("bonding: add min links parameter to 802.3ad")
>Signed-off-by: Louis Scalbert <louis.scalbert@6wind.com>
>---
> Documentation/networking/bonding.rst | 33 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c | 1 +
> drivers/net/bonding/bond_netlink.c | 16 ++++++++++++++
> drivers/net/bonding/bond_options.c | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> include/net/bond_options.h | 1 +
> include/net/bonding.h | 1 +
> include/uapi/linux/if_link.h | 1 +
> 7 files changed, 79 insertions(+)
>
>diff --git a/Documentation/networking/bonding.rst b/Documentation/networking/bonding.rst
>index e700bf1d095c..465d06aead27 100644
>--- a/Documentation/networking/bonding.rst
>+++ b/Documentation/networking/bonding.rst
>@@ -619,6 +619,39 @@ min_links
> aggregator cannot be active without at least one available link,
> setting this option to 0 or to 1 has the exact same effect.
>
>+lacp_fallback
>+
>+ Specifies the fallback behavior of a bonding when LACP negotiation fails on
>+ all slave links, i.e. when no slave is in the Collecting/Distributing state
>+ (or only in Collecting state when coupled_control is disabled), while at
>+ least `min_links` link still reports carrier up.
>+
>+ This option is only applicable to 802.3ad mode (mode 4).
>+
>+ Valid values are:
>+
>+ legacy or 0
>+ In this situation, the bonding master remains carrier up and
>+ randomly selects a single slave to transmit and receive traffic.
>+ Traffic received on other slaves is dropped.
>+
>+ This mode is deprecated, as it may lead to traffic blackholing
>+ when the absence of LACP negotiation means the partner is not
>+ ready to collect and distribute traffic.
>+
>+ This is the legacy default behavior.
>+
>+ strict or 1
>+ In this situation, the bonding master reports carrier down, allowing
>+ upper-layer processes to detect that the interface is not usable for
>+ collecting and distributing traffic.
>+
>+ The master transitions to carrier up only when at least
>+ `min_links` slaves reach the Collecting(/Distributing) state,
>+ allowing traffic to flow.
>+
>+ The default value is 0 (legacy).
>+
1- Please wrap text at approximately 75 columns.
2- I don't agree with the nomenclature or language of the above.
The existing behavior is not going to be deprecated or considered to be
legacy, and the option nomenclature should reflect that. I would
suggest naming the option "lacp_strict" and having it's possible
settings be on or off, with the default setting as off.
I think the behavior can be described along the lines of
off or 0
One interface of the bond is selected to be active, in
order to facilitate communication with peer devices that
do not implement LACP.
on or 1
Interfaces are only permitted to be made active if they
have an active LACP partner and have successfully reached
Collecting or Collecting_Distributing state.
The default is value is 0 (off).
-J
> mode
>
> Specifies one of the bonding policies. The default is
>diff --git a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
>index a5484d11553d..02cba0560a39 100644
>--- a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
>+++ b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
>@@ -6440,6 +6440,7 @@ static int __init bond_check_params(struct bond_params *params)
> params->ad_user_port_key = ad_user_port_key;
> params->coupled_control = 1;
> params->broadcast_neighbor = 0;
>+ params->lacp_fallback = 0;
> if (packets_per_slave > 0) {
> params->reciprocal_packets_per_slave =
> reciprocal_value(packets_per_slave);
>diff --git a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_netlink.c b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_netlink.c
>index 286f11c517f7..1f92ad786b51 100644
>--- a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_netlink.c
>+++ b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_netlink.c
>@@ -130,6 +130,7 @@ static const struct nla_policy bond_policy[IFLA_BOND_MAX + 1] = {
> [IFLA_BOND_NS_IP6_TARGET] = { .type = NLA_NESTED },
> [IFLA_BOND_COUPLED_CONTROL] = { .type = NLA_U8 },
> [IFLA_BOND_BROADCAST_NEIGH] = { .type = NLA_U8 },
>+ [IFLA_BOND_LACP_FALLBACK] = { .type = NLA_U8 },
> };
>
> static const struct nla_policy bond_slave_policy[IFLA_BOND_SLAVE_MAX + 1] = {
>@@ -586,6 +587,16 @@ static int bond_changelink(struct net_device *bond_dev, struct nlattr *tb[],
> return err;
> }
>
>+ if (data[IFLA_BOND_LACP_FALLBACK]) {
>+ int fallback_mode = nla_get_u8(data[IFLA_BOND_LACP_FALLBACK]);
>+
>+ bond_opt_initval(&newval, fallback_mode);
>+ err = __bond_opt_set(bond, BOND_OPT_LACP_FALLBACK, &newval,
>+ data[IFLA_BOND_LACP_FALLBACK], extack);
>+ if (err)
>+ return err;
>+ }
>+
> return 0;
> }
>
>@@ -658,6 +669,7 @@ static size_t bond_get_size(const struct net_device *bond_dev)
> nla_total_size(sizeof(struct in6_addr)) * BOND_MAX_NS_TARGETS +
> nla_total_size(sizeof(u8)) + /* IFLA_BOND_COUPLED_CONTROL */
> nla_total_size(sizeof(u8)) + /* IFLA_BOND_BROADCAST_NEIGH */
>+ nla_total_size(sizeof(u8)) + /* IFLA_BOND_LACP_FALLBACK */
> 0;
> }
>
>@@ -825,6 +837,10 @@ static int bond_fill_info(struct sk_buff *skb,
> bond->params.broadcast_neighbor))
> goto nla_put_failure;
>
>+ if (nla_put_u8(skb, IFLA_BOND_LACP_FALLBACK,
>+ bond->params.lacp_fallback))
>+ goto nla_put_failure;
>+
> if (BOND_MODE(bond) == BOND_MODE_8023AD) {
> struct ad_info info;
>
>diff --git a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_options.c b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_options.c
>index 7380cc4ee75a..b672b8a881bb 100644
>--- a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_options.c
>+++ b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_options.c
>@@ -68,6 +68,8 @@ static int bond_option_lacp_active_set(struct bonding *bond,
> const struct bond_opt_value *newval);
> static int bond_option_lacp_rate_set(struct bonding *bond,
> const struct bond_opt_value *newval);
>+static int bond_option_lacp_fallback_set(struct bonding *bond,
>+ const struct bond_opt_value *newval);
> static int bond_option_ad_select_set(struct bonding *bond,
> const struct bond_opt_value *newval);
> static int bond_option_queue_id_set(struct bonding *bond,
>@@ -162,6 +164,12 @@ static const struct bond_opt_value bond_lacp_rate_tbl[] = {
> { NULL, -1, 0},
> };
>
>+static const struct bond_opt_value bond_lacp_fallback_tbl[] = {
>+ { "legacy", 0, BOND_VALFLAG_DEFAULT},
>+ { "strict", 1, 0},
>+ { NULL, -1, 0 }
>+};
>+
> static const struct bond_opt_value bond_ad_select_tbl[] = {
> { "stable", BOND_AD_STABLE, BOND_VALFLAG_DEFAULT},
> { "bandwidth", BOND_AD_BANDWIDTH, 0},
>@@ -363,6 +371,14 @@ static const struct bond_option bond_opts[BOND_OPT_LAST] = {
> .values = bond_lacp_rate_tbl,
> .set = bond_option_lacp_rate_set
> },
>+ [BOND_OPT_LACP_FALLBACK] = {
>+ .id = BOND_OPT_LACP_FALLBACK,
>+ .name = "lacp_fallback",
>+ .desc = "Define the LACP fallback mode when no slaves have negotiated",
>+ .unsuppmodes = BOND_MODE_ALL_EX(BIT(BOND_MODE_8023AD)),
>+ .values = bond_lacp_fallback_tbl,
>+ .set = bond_option_lacp_fallback_set
>+ },
> [BOND_OPT_MINLINKS] = {
> .id = BOND_OPT_MINLINKS,
> .name = "min_links",
>@@ -1684,6 +1700,16 @@ static int bond_option_lacp_rate_set(struct bonding *bond,
> return 0;
> }
>
>+static int bond_option_lacp_fallback_set(struct bonding *bond,
>+ const struct bond_opt_value *newval)
>+{
>+ netdev_dbg(bond->dev, "Setting LACP fallback to %s (%llu)\n",
>+ newval->string, newval->value);
>+ bond->params.lacp_fallback = newval->value;
>+
>+ return 0;
>+}
>+
> static int bond_option_ad_select_set(struct bonding *bond,
> const struct bond_opt_value *newval)
> {
>diff --git a/include/net/bond_options.h b/include/net/bond_options.h
>index e6eedf23aea1..5eb64c831f54 100644
>--- a/include/net/bond_options.h
>+++ b/include/net/bond_options.h
>@@ -79,6 +79,7 @@ enum {
> BOND_OPT_COUPLED_CONTROL,
> BOND_OPT_BROADCAST_NEIGH,
> BOND_OPT_ACTOR_PORT_PRIO,
>+ BOND_OPT_LACP_FALLBACK,
> BOND_OPT_LAST
> };
>
>diff --git a/include/net/bonding.h b/include/net/bonding.h
>index 395c6e281c5f..d8cb02643f8b 100644
>--- a/include/net/bonding.h
>+++ b/include/net/bonding.h
>@@ -132,6 +132,7 @@ struct bond_params {
> int peer_notif_delay;
> int lacp_active;
> int lacp_fast;
>+ int lacp_fallback;
> unsigned int min_links;
> int ad_select;
> char primary[IFNAMSIZ];
>diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/if_link.h b/include/uapi/linux/if_link.h
>index e9b5f79e1ee1..7ad3fc600c71 100644
>--- a/include/uapi/linux/if_link.h
>+++ b/include/uapi/linux/if_link.h
>@@ -1539,6 +1539,7 @@ enum {
> IFLA_BOND_NS_IP6_TARGET,
> IFLA_BOND_COUPLED_CONTROL,
> IFLA_BOND_BROADCAST_NEIGH,
>+ IFLA_BOND_LACP_FALLBACK,
> __IFLA_BOND_MAX,
> };
>
>--
>2.39.2
>
---
-Jay Vosburgh, jv@jvosburgh.net
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-13 16:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-08 15:23 [PATCH net v3 0/5] bonding: 3ad: fix carrier state with no valid slaves Louis Scalbert
2026-04-08 15:23 ` [PATCH net v3 1/5] bonding: 3ad: add lacp_fallback configuration knob Louis Scalbert
2026-04-13 16:45 ` Jay Vosburgh [this message]
2026-04-08 15:23 ` [PATCH net v3 2/5] bonding: 3ad: fix carrier when no valid slaves Louis Scalbert
2026-04-13 17:01 ` Jay Vosburgh
2026-04-08 15:23 ` [PATCH net v3 3/5] bonding: 3ad: fix mux port state on oper down Louis Scalbert
2026-04-13 16:49 ` Jay Vosburgh
2026-04-08 15:23 ` [PATCH net v3 4/5] bonding: 3ad: fix stuck negotiation on recovery Louis Scalbert
2026-04-13 18:39 ` Jay Vosburgh
2026-04-08 15:23 ` [PATCH net v3 5/5] selftests: bonding: add test for fallback mode Louis Scalbert
2026-04-09 3:13 ` [PATCH net v3 0/5] bonding: 3ad: fix carrier state with no valid slaves Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-09 6:53 ` Jonas Gorski
2026-04-09 11:49 ` Louis Scalbert
2026-04-10 2:38 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-10 14:02 ` Jay Vosburgh
2026-04-13 16:45 ` Jay Vosburgh
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