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From: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>
To: Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com,
	edumazet@google.com, horms@kernel.org,
	willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com, aksecurity@gmail.com,
	noam.caspi@mail.huji.ac.il, stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2 3/4] ipv6: udp: Create exceptions before socket matching
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2026 13:44:56 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <746834f1-1a50-41c6-800f-703443efeb83@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260828192344.2596928-4-idosch@nvidia.com>

On 8/28/26 1:23 PM, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> Currently, when ICMPv6 Packet Too Big and Redirect Message packets are
> locally delivered and quote a UDP packet, an exception is only created
> in the IPv6 exception cache if the kernel can match the UDP packet to an
> existing socket.
> 
> This behavior allows off-path attackers to conduct a side-channel attack
> on the exception cache in order to discover the ephemeral port used by a
> connected UDP socket.
> 
> Commit 4785305c05b2 ("ipv6: use siphash in rt6_exception_hash()") and
> commit a00df2caffed ("ipv6: make exception cache less predictible") tried
> to mitigate such attacks by making it harder for attackers to discover
> hash collisions in the exception cache and by randomizing the number of
> exceptions a hash bucket can hold, respectively. Unfortunately, both of
> the mitigations can be bypassed.
> 
> Instead, mitigate such attacks by always creating an exception, even
> before trying to find a matching socket. Do that by calling
> ip6_update_pmtu() and ip6_redirect(), the helpers used when the quoted
> packet did not originate from a socket.
> 
> This means that guesses (right or wrong) from an off-path attacker will
> always result in an exception being created or updated in the cache that
> the attacker can observe.
> 
> Pass the ifindex of the ingress device and the default uid, in a similar
> fashion to icmpv6_err(). Unlike IPv4, an oif of 0 would not match any
> nexthop in ip6_redirect_nh_match() and no exception would be created in
> response to a Redirect Message.
> 
> Note that this does not allow attackers to create exceptions that they
> could not create before, as both helpers can already be reached with
> little to no validation. For example, by sending an ICMPv6 error that
> quotes an ICMPv6 Echo Reply or one that quotes a UDP source port that
> matches a wildcard socket.
> 
> Also note that in the good case (matched socket) the above scheme comes
> at the cost of an extra route lookup, as the no socket helpers perform
> their own lookup before the one performed by ip6_sk_update_pmtu() /
> ip6_sk_redirect(). When the two resolve to different nexthops, it also
> results in two exceptions being created for the same destination IP. One
> in the exception cache of the nexthop resolved by the no socket helpers
> and another in the exception cache of the nexthop used by the socket.
> 
> Fixes: 2b760fcf5cfb ("ipv6: hook up exception table to store dst cache")
> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> Reported-by: Amit Klein <aksecurity@gmail.com>
> Reported-by: Noam Caspi <noam.caspi@mail.huji.ac.il>
> Signed-off-by: Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>
> ---
>  net/ipv6/udp.c | 13 +++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
> 

Reviewed-by: David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>



  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-28 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-28 19:23 [PATCH net v2 0/4] Mitigate a side channel in routing exception caches Ido Schimmel
2026-08-28 19:23 ` [PATCH net v2 1/4] ipv6: Fix redirect exception creation for UDP/RAW sockets Ido Schimmel
2026-08-28 19:23 ` [PATCH net v2 2/4] ipv4: udp: Create exceptions before socket matching Ido Schimmel
2026-08-28 19:44   ` David Ahern
2026-08-31  6:44   ` Ido Schimmel
2026-08-28 19:23 ` [PATCH net v2 3/4] ipv6: " Ido Schimmel
2026-08-28 19:44   ` David Ahern [this message]
2026-08-31  6:45   ` Ido Schimmel
2026-08-28 19:23 ` [PATCH net v2 4/4] selftests: net: Add exception cache tests Ido Schimmel
2026-08-31  6:59   ` Ido Schimmel
2026-09-01  3:10 ` [PATCH net v2 0/4] Mitigate a side channel in routing exception caches patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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