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From: Jay Vosburgh <jv@jvosburgh.net>
To: ramses@well-founded.dev
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Bohac <jbohac@suse.cz>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>,
	Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@kylinos.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3] bonding: fix initial last_rx vs ARP-monitor slack window
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 09:33:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74903.1793111613@vermin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261027-bonding-last-rx-v3-1-54907f1fb042@well-founded.dev>

Ramses de Norre via B4 Relay <devnull+ramses.well-founded.dev@kernel.org> wrote:

>From: Ramses de Norre <ramses@well-founded.dev>
>
>bond_enslave() seeds a new slave's last_rx with a timestamp old enough
>that the ARP monitor does not consider the slave up until a real ARP
>reply arrives. That is the purpose of the seed, see commit f31c7937c254
>("bonding: start slaves with link down for ARP monitor").
>
>The seed is one arp_interval (plus a tick) in the past, which was just
>old enough when the test was "jiffies <= last_rx + arp_interval".
>Commit da210f559019 ("bonding: add some slack to arp monitoring time
>limits") added arp_interval/2 of slack to every such comparison without
>adjusting the seed, so the seed now sits inside the window instead of
>outside it. For the first half ARP interval after enslavement,
>bond_ab_arp_inspect() therefore sees "received recently" for a slave
>that has not received anything and proposes it UP. This happens for any
>freshly enslaved slave, independent of primary_reselect.
>
>When the slave is the configured primary, the still-armed force_primary
>then makes it the active slave. ARP validation fails it shortly after,
>since the link has not received anything (on SFP+ ports the PHY is
>often still negotiating), and the bond falls back to the backup. With
>primary_reselect=always the bond recovers once the port really comes
>up, but drops traffic until then. With primary_reselect=failure,
>force_primary has been spent and the bond stays on the backup.
>
>Reproducer:
>
>  ip link add bond0 type bond mode active-backup arp_interval 1000 \
>      arp_validate all arp_ip_target 192.0.2.1 \
>      primary eth0 primary_reselect failure
>  # eth0: SFP+ (slow link-up), eth1: RJ45 (fast link-up)
>  ip link set eth0 master bond0
>  ip link set eth1 master bond0
>  ip link set bond0 up
>  # bond0 lands on eth0 via force_primary, ARP-fails it before the
>  # SFP+ has carrier, falls to eth1, and stays there.
>
>Seed last_rx (and with it the per-target array and last_tx) two
>intervals in the past, so it is outside the slack window from the
>start. The initial link state is unchanged, it still comes from
>netif_carrier_ok().

	If the missed_max bonding parameter is set larger or smaller
than the default of 2, is your seed of two intervals still sufficient to
resolve the problem?

	-J

>Fixes: da210f559019 ("bonding: add some slack to arp monitoring time limits")
>Reviewed-by: Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@kylinos.cn>
>Signed-off-by: Ramses de Norre <ramses@well-founded.dev>
>---
>Changes in v3:
>- No code changes. Rebase on current net.
>- Reword the commit message along the lines of the v2 discussion: lead
>  with what the last_rx seed is for, state that the false UP happens
>  independent of primary_reselect, and that the initial link state is
>  unchanged.
>- Pick up Reviewed-by from Hangbin.
>- Cc Nikolay. Hangbin asked for a second review, Jay or Nikolay, would
>  you have a look?
>- Link to v2: https://patch.msgid.link/20260827-bonding-last-rx-v2-1-7c3833822c23@well-founded.dev
>
>Changes in v2:
>- No code changes. Resend with my personal name in the From and
>  Signed-off-by lines instead of my handle, as requested for the DCO.
>- Link to v1: https://patch.msgid.link/20260817-bonding-last-rx-v1-1-9da6f7fdf812@well-founded.dev
>---
> drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
>diff --git a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
>index 7019e5d8fdc8e..269384fadfa6f 100644
>--- a/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
>+++ b/drivers/net/bonding/bond_main.c
>@@ -2123,7 +2123,7 @@ int bond_enslave(struct net_device *bond_dev, struct net_device *slave_dev,
> 		new_slave->link = BOND_LINK_DOWN;
> 
> 	new_slave->last_rx = jiffies -
>-		(msecs_to_jiffies(bond->params.arp_interval) + 1);
>+		(2 * msecs_to_jiffies(bond->params.arp_interval) + 1);
> 	for (i = 0; i < BOND_MAX_ARP_TARGETS; i++)
> 		new_slave->target_last_arp_rx[i] = new_slave->last_rx;
> 
>
>---
>base-commit: f75062536e2d45ee182828f0e47e0124be2fdc8d
>change-id: 20260817-bonding-last-rx-0303fa048f9d
>
>Best regards,
>--  
>Ramses de Norre <ramses@well-founded.dev>
>
>

---
	-Jay Vosburgh, jv@jvosburgh.net

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-27 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-27 12:23 [PATCH net v3] bonding: fix initial last_rx vs ARP-monitor slack window Ramses de Norre via B4 Relay
2026-10-27 14:33 ` Jay Vosburgh [this message]
2026-10-28 12:25 ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-28 15:36   ` Ramses

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