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From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
To: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com,
	"Christophe Leroy" <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	"Herve Codina" <herve.codina@bootlin.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Vladimir Oltean" <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	"Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>,
	"Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>,
	"Oleksij Rempel" <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
	"Nicolò Veronese" <nicveronese@gmail.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	mwojtas@chromium.org,
	"Romain Gantois" <romain.gantois@bootlin.com>,
	"Daniel Golle" <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
	"Dimitri Fedrau" <dimitri.fedrau@liebherr.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v9 00/10] net: phy_port: SFP modules representation and phy_port listing
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2026 09:35:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <76e290cd-22bd-4ed3-b2b3-036e1edff140@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260403123755.175742-1-maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>

On 4/3/26 2:37 PM, Maxime Chevallier wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Here's V9 for the phy_port netlink interface (get-only for now).
> 
> V9 addresses sashiko's issues (not all of them, as some don't make
> sense), and updates the missings parts in the doc.
> 
> This work extends on the recent addition of phy_port representation to enable
> listing the front-facing ports of an interface. For now, we don't control
> these ports, we merely list their presence and their capabilities.
> 
> As the most common use-case of multi-port interfaces is combo-ports that
> provide both RJ45 and SFP connectors on a single MAC, there's a lot of
> SFP stuff in this series.
> 
> This series is in 2 main parts. The first one aims at representing the
> SFP cages and modules using phy_port, as combo-ports with RJ45 + SFP are
> by far the most common cases for multi-connector setups.
> 
> The second part is the netlink interface to list those ports, now that
> most use-cases are covered.
> 
> Let's see what we can do with some examples of the new ethtool API :
> 
> - Get MII interfaces supported by an empty SFP cage :
> 
> # ethtool --show-ports eth3
> 
> Port for eth3:
> 	Port id: 1
> 	Vacant: yes
> 	Supported MII interfaces : sgmii, 1000base-x, 2500base-x
> 	Port type: sfp
> 
> - Get Combo-ports supported modes, on each port :
> 
> # ethtool --show-ports eth1
> 
> Port for eth1:
> 	Port id: 1
> 	Vacant: no
> 	Supported link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
> 	                       100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
> 	                       1000baseT/Full
> 	                       10000baseT/Full
> 	                       2500baseT/Full
> 	                       5000baseT/Full
> 
> 	Port type: mdi
> 
> Port for eth1:
> 	Port id: 2
> 	Vacant: yes
> 	Supported MII interfaces : 10gbase-r
> 	Port type: sfp
> 
> - Get Achievable linkmodes on a SFP module (combo port with a DAC in the
> SFP cage)
> 
> # ethtool --show-ports eth1
> 
> Port for eth1:
> 	Port id: 1
> 	Vacant: no
> 	Supported link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
> 	                       100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
> 	                       1000baseT/Full
> 	                       10000baseT/Full
> 	                       2500baseT/Full
> 	                       5000baseT/Full
> 	Port type: mdi
> 
> Port for eth1:
> 	Port id: 2
> 	Vacant: no
> 	Supported MII interfaces : 10gbase-r
> 	Port type: sfp
> 
> Port for eth1:
> 	Port id: 3
> 	Vacant: no
> 	Supported link modes:  10000baseCR/Full
> 	Port type: mdi
> 
> Note that here, we have 3 ports :
>  - The Copper port
>  - The SFP Cage itself, marked as 'occupied'
>  - The SFP module
> 
> This series builds on top of phy_port and phy_link_topology to allow
> tracking the ports of an interface. We maintain a list of supported
> linkmodes/interfaces on each port, which allows for fine-grained
> reporting of each port's capability.
> 
> What this series doesn't do :
>  - We don't support selecting which port is active. This is the next step.
>  - We only support PHY-driven combo ports. The end-goal of this whole
>    journey that started with phy_link_topology is to get support for MII
>    muxes, such as the one we have on the Turris Omnia. This will eventually
>    be upstreamed as well.
> 
> If you want to play around with it, here's [1] the patched ethtool that I've
> been using to produce the outputs above.
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> Maxime
> 
> [1] : https://github.com/minimaxwell/ethtool/tree/mc/ethtool_port

Some feedback from Andrew, Russell or Heiner would be very appreciated.

@Maxime: I went over sashiko feedback and I *think* it ranges from
orthogonal to wrong, but it would be useful if you could go over it.

Thanks,

Paolo


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-04-09  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-03 12:37 [PATCH net-next v9 00/10] net: phy_port: SFP modules representation and phy_port listing Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-03 12:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 01/10] net: phy: phy_link_topology: Add a helper for opportunistic alloc Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-03 12:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 02/10] net: phy: phy_link_topology: Track ports in phy_link_topology Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-03 12:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 03/10] net: phylink: Register a phy_port for MAC-driven SFP busses Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-03 12:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 04/10] net: phy: Create SFP phy_port before registering upstream Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-03 12:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 05/10] net: phy: Represent PHY-less SFP modules with phy_port Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-03 12:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 06/10] net: phylink: " Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-03 12:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 07/10] net: phy: phy_port: Store information about a MII port's vacant state Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-03 12:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 08/10] net: phy: phy_link_topology: Add a helper to retrieve ports Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-03 12:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 09/10] netlink: specs: Add ethernet port listing with ethtool Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-03 12:37 ` [PATCH net-next v9 10/10] net: ethtool: Introduce ethtool command to list ports Maxime Chevallier
2026-04-09  7:35 ` Paolo Abeni [this message]
2026-04-09  8:40   ` [PATCH net-next v9 00/10] net: phy_port: SFP modules representation and phy_port listing Maxime Chevallier

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