From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.com>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
sj38.park@gmail.com, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.de>,
snu@amazon.com, amit@kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2 0/2] Revert the 'socket_alloc' life cycle change
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 09:31:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <77124fc2-86b2-27f6-fd7c-4f1e86eb3fff@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <05843a3c-eb9d-3a0d-f992-7e4b97cc1f19@gmail.com>
On 5/5/20 9:25 AM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>
>
> On 5/5/20 9:13 AM, SeongJae Park wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 May 2020 09:00:44 -0700 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:47 AM SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 5 May 2020 08:20:50 -0700 Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/5/20 8:07 AM, SeongJae Park wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 5 May 2020 07:53:39 -0700 Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do we have 10,000,000 objects around ? Could this be because of
>>>>>>> some RCU problem ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mainly because of a long RCU grace period, as you guess. I have no idea how
>>>>>> the grace period became so long in this case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As my test machine was a virtual machine instance, I guess RCU readers
>>>>>> preemption[1] like problem might affected this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/atc17/atc17-prasad.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once Al patches reverted, do you have 10,000,000 sock_alloc around ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, both the old kernel that prior to Al's patches and the recent kernel
>>>>>> reverting the Al's patches didn't reproduce the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I repeat my question : Do you have 10,000,000 (smaller) objects kept in slab caches ?
>>>>>
>>>>> TCP sockets use the (very complex, error prone) SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU, but not the struct socket_wq
>>>>> object that was allocated in sock_alloc_inode() before Al patches.
>>>>>
>>>>> These objects should be visible in kmalloc-64 kmem cache.
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly the 10,000,000, as it is only the possible highest number, but I
>>>> was able to observe clear exponential increase of the number of the objects
>>>> using slabtop. Before the start of the problematic workload, the number of
>>>> objects of 'kmalloc-64' was 5760, but I was able to observe the number increase
>>>> to 1,136,576.
>>>>
>>>> OBJS ACTIVE USE OBJ SIZE SLABS OBJ/SLAB CACHE SIZE NAME
>>>> before: 5760 5088 88% 0.06K 90 64 360K kmalloc-64
>>>> after: 1136576 1136576 100% 0.06K 17759 64 71036K kmalloc-64
>>>>
>>>
>>> Great, thanks.
>>>
>>> How recent is the kernel you are running for your experiment ?
>>
>> It's based on 5.4.35.
>>
>>>
>>> Let's make sure the bug is not in RCU.
>>
>> One thing I can currently say is that the grace period passes at last. I
>> modified the benchmark to repeat not 10,000 times but only 5,000 times to run
>> the test without OOM but easily observable memory pressure. As soon as the
>> benchmark finishes, the memory were freed.
>>
>> If you need more tests, please let me know.
>>
>
> I would ask Paul opinion on this issue, because we have many objects
> being freed after RCU grace periods.
>
> If RCU subsystem can not keep-up, I guess other workloads will also suffer.
>
> Sure, we can revert patches there and there trying to work around the issue,
> but for objects allocated from process context, we should not have these problems.
>
I wonder if simply adjusting rcu_divisor to 6 or 5 would help
diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
index d9a49cd6065a20936edbda1b334136ab597cde52..fde833bac0f9f81e8536211b4dad6e7575c1219a 100644
--- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c
+++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
@@ -427,7 +427,7 @@ module_param(qovld, long, 0444);
static ulong jiffies_till_first_fqs = ULONG_MAX;
static ulong jiffies_till_next_fqs = ULONG_MAX;
static bool rcu_kick_kthreads;
-static int rcu_divisor = 7;
+static int rcu_divisor = 6;
module_param(rcu_divisor, int, 0644);
/* Force an exit from rcu_do_batch() after 3 milliseconds. */
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-05 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-05 8:10 [PATCH net v2 0/2] Revert the 'socket_alloc' life cycle change SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 8:10 ` [PATCH net v2 1/2] Revert "coallocate socket_wq with socket itself" SeongJae Park
2020-05-06 4:55 ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-05 8:10 ` [PATCH net v2 2/2] Revert "sockfs: switch to ->free_inode()" SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 11:54 ` [PATCH net v2 0/2] Revert the 'socket_alloc' life cycle change SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 12:31 ` Nuernberger, Stefan
2020-05-05 14:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-05-05 15:07 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 15:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-05-05 15:46 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 16:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-05-05 16:13 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 16:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-05-05 16:31 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2020-05-05 16:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-05-05 17:05 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 17:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-05 17:56 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 18:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-05 18:34 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 18:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-06 12:59 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-06 14:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-05-06 14:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-06 15:20 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 17:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-05 18:11 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 17:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-05 17:49 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 18:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-05 18:40 ` SeongJae Park
2020-05-05 18:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-05 16:26 ` Al Viro
2020-05-05 18:48 ` David Miller
2020-05-05 19:00 ` David Miller
2020-05-06 6:24 ` SeongJae Park
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