From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
"Arthur Fabre" <arthur@arthurfabre.com>,
"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
"Jesse Brandeburg" <jbrandeburg@cloudflare.com>,
"Joanne Koong" <joannelkoong@gmail.com>,
"Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <thoiland@redhat.com>,
"Yan Zhai" <yan@cloudflare.com>,
kernel-team@cloudflare.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@fomichev.me>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 01/10] bpf: Add dynptr type for skb metadata
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 11:46:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83977f81df181ba05a6388f3f542ec027ff44189.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250721-skb-metadata-thru-dynptr-v3-1-e92be5534174@cloudflare.com>
On Mon, 2025-07-21 at 12:52 +0200, Jakub Sitnicki wrote:
> Add a dynptr type, similar to skb dynptr, but for the skb metadata access.
>
> The dynptr provides an alternative to __sk_buff->data_meta for accessing
> the custom metadata area allocated using the bpf_xdp_adjust_meta() helper.
>
> More importantly, it abstracts away the fact where the storage for the
> custom metadata lives, which opens up the way to persist the metadata by
> relocating it as the skb travels through the network stack layers.
>
> A notable difference between the skb and the skb_meta dynptr is that writes
> to the skb_meta dynptr don't invalidate either skb or skb_meta dynptr
> slices, since they cannot lead to a skb->head reallocation.
>
> skb_meta dynptr ops are stubbed out and implemented by subsequent changes.
>
> Only the program types which can access __sk_buff->data_meta today are
> allowed to create a dynptr for skb metadata at the moment. We need to
> modify the network stack to persist the metadata across layers before
> opening up access to other BPF hooks.
>
> Signed-off-by: Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>
> ---
Acked-by: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
> @@ -2274,7 +2278,8 @@ static bool reg_is_pkt_pointer_any(const struct bpf_reg_state *reg)
> static bool reg_is_dynptr_slice_pkt(const struct bpf_reg_state *reg)
> {
> return base_type(reg->type) == PTR_TO_MEM &&
> - (reg->type & DYNPTR_TYPE_SKB || reg->type & DYNPTR_TYPE_XDP);
> + (reg->type &
> + (DYNPTR_TYPE_SKB | DYNPTR_TYPE_XDP | DYNPTR_TYPE_SKB_META));
> }
Note: This function is used to identify pointers to packet data that
might be stale after call to one of the functions in list [1].
Once such pointers are identified, verifier would disallow
access through these pointers.
dynptr_from_skb_meta() is implemented as:
bpf_dynptr_init(ptr, skb, BPF_DYNPTR_TYPE_SKB_META, 0, skb_metadata_len(skb));
here any read or write goes through skb object, not a pointer derived from it.
Given above, is it still necessary to list DYNPTR_FROM_SKB_META here?
Or some functions from [1] can change skb_metadata_len(skb)?
[1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.15.7/source/net/core/filter.c#L7989
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-22 18:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-21 10:52 [PATCH bpf-next v3 00/10] Add a dynptr type for skb metadata for TC BPF Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-21 10:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 01/10] bpf: Add dynptr type for skb metadata Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-22 18:46 ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2025-07-22 19:10 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-23 0:37 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2025-07-23 9:02 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-21 10:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 02/10] bpf: Enable read access to skb metadata with bpf_dynptr_read Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-22 18:49 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-23 16:50 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-21 10:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 03/10] bpf: Enable write access to skb metadata with bpf_dynptr_write Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-21 10:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 04/10] bpf: Enable read-write access to skb metadata with dynptr slice Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-21 10:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 05/10] selftests/bpf: Cover verifier checks for skb_meta dynptr type Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-22 19:22 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-21 10:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 06/10] selftests/bpf: Pass just bpf_map to xdp_context_test helper Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-22 20:24 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-21 10:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 07/10] selftests/bpf: Parametrize test_xdp_context_tuntap Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-22 20:24 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-21 10:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 08/10] selftests/bpf: Cover read access to skb metadata via dynptr Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-22 20:24 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-21 10:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 09/10] selftests/bpf: Cover write " Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-22 20:25 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-21 10:52 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 10/10] selftests/bpf: Cover read/write to skb metadata at an offset Jakub Sitnicki
2025-07-22 20:26 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-22 20:30 ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-07-23 9:09 ` Jakub Sitnicki
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