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From: Hans Schultz <schultz.hans@gmail.com>
To: Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>,
	Hans Schultz <schultz.hans@gmail.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Ivan Vecera <ivecera@redhat.com>, Roopa Prabhu <roopa@nvidia.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 net-next 1/4] net: bridge: add fdb flag to extent locked port feature
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 10:34:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86fskyggdo.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b78fb006-04c4-5a25-7ba5-94428cc9591a@blackwall.org>

On ons, maj 25, 2022 at 11:06, Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org> wrote:
> On 24/05/2022 19:21, Hans Schultz wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>> So this approach has a fundamental problem, f->dst is changed without any synchronization
>>> you cannot rely on it and thus you cannot account for these entries properly. We must be very
>>> careful if we try to add any new synchronization not to affect performance as well.
>>> More below...
>>>
>>>> @@ -319,6 +326,9 @@ static void fdb_delete(struct net_bridge *br, struct net_bridge_fdb_entry *f,
>>>>  	if (test_bit(BR_FDB_STATIC, &f->flags))
>>>>  		fdb_del_hw_addr(br, f->key.addr.addr);
>>>>  
>>>> +	if (test_bit(BR_FDB_ENTRY_LOCKED, &f->flags) && !test_bit(BR_FDB_OFFLOADED, &f->flags))
>>>> +		atomic_dec(&f->dst->locked_entry_cnt);
>>>
>>> Sorry but you cannot do this for multiple reasons:
>>>  - f->dst can be NULL
>>>  - f->dst changes without any synchronization
>>>  - there is no synchronization between fdb's flags and its ->dst
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>  Nik
>> 
>> Hi Nik,
>> 
>> if a port is decoupled from the bridge, the locked entries would of
>> course be invalid, so maybe if adding and removing a port is accounted
>> for wrt locked entries and the count of locked entries, would that not
>> work?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Hans
>
> Hi Hans,
> Unfortunately you need the correct amount of locked entries per-port if you want
> to limit their number per-port, instead of globally. So you need a
> consistent

Hi Nik,
the used dst is a port structure, so it is per-port and not globally.

Best,
Hans

> fdb view with all its attributes when changing its dst in this case, which would
> require new locking because you have multiple dependent struct fields and it will
> kill roaming/learning scalability. I don't think this use case is worth the complexity it
> will bring, so I'd suggest an alternative - you can monitor the number of locked entries
> per-port from a user-space agent and disable port learning or some similar solution that
> doesn't require any complex kernel changes. Is the limit a requirement to add the feature?
>
> I have an idea how to do it and to minimize the performance hit if it really is needed
> but it'll add a lot of complexity which I'd like to avoid if possible.
>
> Cheers,
>  Nik

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-25  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-24 15:21 [PATCH V3 net-next 0/4] Extend locked port feature with FDB locked flag (MAC-Auth/MAB) Hans Schultz
2022-05-24 15:21 ` [PATCH V3 net-next 1/4] net: bridge: add fdb flag to extent locked port feature Hans Schultz
2022-05-24 15:39   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-05-24 16:08     ` Hans Schultz
2022-05-24 16:21     ` Hans Schultz
2022-05-25  8:06       ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-05-25  8:34         ` Hans Schultz [this message]
2022-05-25  8:38           ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-05-25  9:11             ` Hans Schultz
2022-05-25 10:18               ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-07-06 18:13                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-06 19:38                   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-07-06 20:21                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-06 21:01                       ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-07-07 14:08                         ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-07-07 17:15                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-07 17:26                             ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-07-08  6:38                           ` Hans S
2022-05-26 14:13   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-05-27  8:52     ` Hans Schultz
2022-05-27  9:58       ` Ido Schimmel
2022-05-27 16:00         ` Hans Schultz
2022-05-31  9:34         ` Hans Schultz
2022-05-31 14:23           ` Ido Schimmel
2022-05-31 15:49             ` Hans Schultz
2022-06-02  9:17             ` Hans Schultz
2022-06-02  9:33               ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-06-02 10:17                 ` Hans Schultz
2022-06-02 10:30                   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2022-06-02 10:39                     ` Ido Schimmel
2022-06-02 11:36                       ` Hans Schultz
2022-06-02 11:55                         ` Ido Schimmel
2022-06-02 12:08                       ` Hans Schultz
2022-06-02 12:18                         ` Ido Schimmel
2022-06-02 13:27                           ` Hans S
2022-05-24 15:21 ` [PATCH V3 net-next 2/4] net: switchdev: add support for offloading of fdb locked flag Hans Schultz
2022-06-27 16:06   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-05-24 15:21 ` [PATCH V3 net-next 3/4] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: mac-auth/MAB implementation Hans Schultz
2022-05-24 21:36   ` kernel test robot
2022-06-27 12:58   ` Hans S
2022-06-27 18:05   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-06-28 12:26     ` Hans S
2022-07-05 15:05       ` Hans S
2022-07-06 13:28         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-06 13:48           ` Hans S
2022-07-06  8:55       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-06 10:12         ` Hans S
2022-07-06 14:23           ` Hans S
2022-07-06 14:33           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-06 15:38             ` Hans S
2022-07-07  6:54               ` Hans S
2022-05-24 15:21 ` [PATCH V3 net-next 4/4] selftests: forwarding: add test of MAC-Auth Bypass to locked port tests Hans Schultz
2022-05-26 14:27   ` Ido Schimmel
2022-05-27  9:07     ` Hans Schultz

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