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From: Jiong Wang <jiong.wang@netronome.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiong Wang <jiong.wang@netronome.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	oss-drivers@netronome.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 06/16] bpf: new sysctl "bpf_jit_32bit_opt"
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 19:13:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874l7oruzu.fsf@netronome.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190327174530.tyrz335ikudvybi7@ast-mbp>


Alexei Starovoitov writes:

> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 05:18:35PM +0000, Jiong Wang wrote:
>> 
>> > On 27 Mar 2019, at 17:17, Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 05:06:01PM +0000, Jiong Wang wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> On 27 Mar 2019, at 17:00, Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 06:05:29PM +0000, Jiong Wang wrote:
>> >>>> After previous patches, verifier has marked those instructions that really
>> >>>> need zero extension on dst_reg.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> It is then for all back-ends to decide how to use such information to
>> >>>> eliminate unnecessary zero extension codegen during JIT compilation.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> One approach is:
>> >>>> 1. Verifier insert explicit zero extension for those instructions that
>> >>>>    need zero extension.
>> >>>> 2. All JIT back-ends do NOT generate zero extension for sub-register
>> >>>>    write any more.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> The good thing for this approach is no major change on JIT back-end
>> >>>> interface, all back-ends could get this optimization.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> However, only those back-ends that do not have hardware zero extension
>> >>>> want this optimization. For back-ends like x86_64 and AArch64, there is
>> >>>> hardware support, so this optimization should be disabled.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> This patch introduces new sysctl "bpf_jit_32bit_opt" which is the control
>> >>>> variable for whether the optimization should be enabled.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> It is initialized using target hook bpf_jit_hardware_zext which is default
>> >>>> true, meaning the underlying hardware will do zero extension automatically,
>> >>>> therefore the optimization will be disabled.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Offload targets do not use this native target hook, instead, they could
>> >>>> get the optimization results using bpf_prog_offload_ops.finalize.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> The user could always enable or disable the optimization by using:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>  sysctl net/core/bpf_jit_32bit_opt=[0 | 1]
>> >>> 
>> >>> I don't think there should be a sysctl for this.
>> >> 
>> >> The sysctl introduced mostly because I think it could be useful for testing.
>> >> For example on x86_64, with this sysctl, we can enable the optimisation and
>> >> can run selftest.
>> >> 
>> >> Does this make sense?
>> >> 
>> >> Or when one insn is marked, we print verbose info, so the tester could catch
>> >> it from log?
>> > 
>> > sysctl in this patch only triggers insertion of shifts.
>> > what kind of testing does it enable on x64?
>> > The writing insn is already 32-bit and hw does zero extend.
>> > These two shifts is always a nop?
>> > a sysctl to test that the verifier inserted shifts in the right place?
>> 
>> Yes, that’s the test methodology I am using. Match the instruction sequence after
>> shifts insertion.
>
> I see. I don't think such extra shifts right after hw zero extend will catch much.
> imo it would be better to populate upper 32-bit with random values on x64
> where verifier analysis showed that it's ok to do so.

Sound like a good idea, indeed gives much more stressful test on x64, and
if all tests passed under test_progs + -mattr=+alu32, then could be very
good assurance on the correctness.

> Such extra insns can be inserted by the verifier. Since such debugging
> has run-time cost we'd need a flag to turn it on.
> May be a new flag during prog load instead of sysctl?

OK, I will explore on this line, see if could have a clean solution.

> It can be a global switch inside libbpf, so test_verifier and test_progs
> wouldn't need to pass it everywhere explictly. It would double the test time,
> but it's worth doing always on all archs. Especially on x64.
>
> other thoughts...
> I guess it's ok to stick with shifts for now.
> Introducing new insn would be nice, but we can do it later.
> Changing all jits for this new insn as pre-patch to this set is too much.

+1

> peephole to convert shifts is probably useful regardless.
> bpf backend emits a bunch of useless shifts when alu32 is not used.
> Would be great if x86 jit can optimize it for such lazy users
> (and users who don't upgrade llvm fast enough or don't know about alu32)

Will do some checks on generic eBPF code-gen later to see how much peephole
opportunities there are.

Regards,
Jiong

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-27 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-26 18:05 [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 00/16] bpf: eliminate zero extensions for sub-register writes Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 01/16] bpf: turn "enum bpf_reg_liveness" into bit representation Jiong Wang
2019-03-27 15:44   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 02/16] bpf: refactor propagate_live implementation Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:26   ` Jann Horn
2019-03-26 19:45     ` Jiong Wang
2019-03-27 16:35   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-03-27 16:44     ` Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 03/16] bpf: split read liveness into REG_LIVE_READ64 and REG_LIVE_READ32 Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 20:21   ` Jann Horn
2019-03-26 20:50     ` Jiong Wang
2019-03-27 16:38   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 04/16] bpf: mark sub-register writes that really need zero extension to high bits Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:44   ` Edward Cree
2019-03-26 19:47     ` Jiong Wang
2019-04-05 20:44     ` Jiong Wang
2019-04-06  3:41       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-04-06  6:56         ` Jiong Wang
2019-04-07  2:51           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-03-27 16:50   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-03-27 17:06     ` Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 05/16] bpf: reduce false alarm by refining "enum bpf_arg_type" Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 06/16] bpf: new sysctl "bpf_jit_32bit_opt" Jiong Wang
2019-03-27 17:00   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-03-27 17:06     ` Jiong Wang
2019-03-27 17:17       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-03-27 17:18         ` Jiong Wang
2019-03-27 17:45           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-03-27 19:13             ` Jiong Wang [this message]
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 07/16] bpf: insert explicit zero extension instructions when bpf_jit_32bit_opt is true Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 08/16] arm: bpf: eliminate zero extension code-gen Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 09/16] powerpc: " Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 10/16] s390: " Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 11/16] sparc: " Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 12/16] x32: " Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 13/16] riscv: " Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 14/16] nfp: " Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 15/16] selftests: bpf: new field "xlated_insns" for insn scan test after verification Jiong Wang
2019-03-26 18:05 ` [PATCH/RFC bpf-next 16/16] selftests: bpf: unit testcases for zero extension insertion pass Jiong Wang

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