From: Jakub Sitnicki <jkbs@redhat.com>
To: Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com, davem@davemloft.net,
roopa@cumulusnetworks.com, dsa@cumulusnetworks.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] net: ipv4: add support for ECMP hash policy choice
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2017 17:00:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8760jjep2y.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <929a2609-51f8-c385-a727-3f819cf28b4f@cumulusnetworks.com>
On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 12:43 PM GMT, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
> On 08/03/17 14:05, Jakub Sitnicki wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 11:01 AM GMT, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
>>> This patch adds support for ECMP hash policy choice via a new sysctl
>>> called fib_multipath_hash_policy and also adds support for L4 hashes.
>>> The current values for fib_multipath_hash_policy are:
>>> 0 - layer 3 (default)
>>> 1 - layer 4
>>> If there's an skb hash already set and it matches the chosen policy then it
>>> will be used instead of being calculated. The ICMP inner IP addresses use
>>> is removed.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>
>>> ---
>>> v2:
>>> - removed the output_key_hash as it's not needed anymore
>>> - reverted to my original/internal patch with L3 as default hash
>>
>> What about ICMP PTB (Fragmentation Needed) forwarding that makes PMTUD
>> work with ECMP in setups like described in RFC7690 [1]?
>>
>> ptb -> router ecmp -> next hop L4/L7 load balancer -> destination
>>
>> router --> load balancer 1 --->
>> \\--> load balancer 2 ---> load-balanced service
>> \--> load balancer N --->
>>
>> Removing special treatment of ICMP errors will break it, won't it?
>>
>
> Yes, I am aware and this decision was made with that in mind.
> We'd like to use the HW hash when available and IIRC that doesn't play well with
> special-casing ICMP errors for anycast as it may not match also. Another thing,
> again if I remember correctly, was that this behaviour is closer to how hardware
> handles ECMP.
OK, I wanted to make sure that is not an oversight that ECMP routing in
ipv4 stack is to be dumbed down to match the hardware behavior. I
thought that it was an advantage that we want to have over hardware
routers. (To be fair, I should mention that we don't have it in ipv6
stack ATM.)
>
> One thing we can do is leave the current L3 behaviour with ICMP error handling
> and add a new L3 mode that tries to use the skb hash when available and doesn't
> care about the packet type.
>
> What do you think ?
Sounds good to me. Would be good to hear other opinions also.
Thanks,
Jakub
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-08 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-06 14:59 [PATCH net-next] net: ipv4: add support for ECMP hash policy choice Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-06 16:24 ` David Ahern
2017-03-06 16:52 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-07 6:16 ` Roopa Prabhu
2017-03-07 11:01 ` [PATCH net-next v2] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-08 12:05 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2017-03-08 12:43 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-08 16:00 ` Jakub Sitnicki [this message]
2017-03-13 2:23 ` David Miller
2017-03-14 15:36 ` [PATCH net-next v3] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-14 15:55 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-03-14 15:58 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-14 18:48 ` David Miller
2017-03-14 20:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-03-14 21:10 ` Roopa Prabhu
2017-03-14 21:42 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-03-14 22:38 ` Roopa Prabhu
2017-03-14 23:27 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-03-14 23:45 ` David Ahern
2017-03-15 9:17 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2017-03-15 10:46 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-15 11:18 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2017-03-15 11:27 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-15 15:01 ` David Ahern
2017-03-15 15:20 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-03-15 0:24 ` David Miller
2017-03-15 2:30 ` Tom Herbert
2017-03-17 3:36 ` David Miller
2017-03-14 18:55 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-15 11:32 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2017-03-15 12:10 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-16 13:28 ` [PATCH net-next v4] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-16 16:41 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-03-16 16:49 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-17 10:06 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2017-03-21 22:28 ` David Miller
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