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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, makita.toshiaki@lab.ntt.co.jp
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	ihor.solodrai@linux.dev, toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@cloudflare.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net V1 1/3] veth: enable dev_watchdog for detecting stalled TXQs
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 15:39:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877bwkfmgr.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <176123157173.2281302.7040578942230212638.stgit@firesoul>

Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org> writes:

> The changes introduced in commit dc82a33297fc ("veth: apply qdisc
> backpressure on full ptr_ring to reduce TX drops") have been found to cause
> a race condition in production environments.
>
> Under specific circumstances, observed exclusively on ARM64 (aarch64)
> systems with Ampere Altra Max CPUs, a transmit queue (TXQ) can become
> permanently stalled. This happens when the race condition leads to the TXQ
> entering the QUEUE_STATE_DRV_XOFF state without a corresponding queue wake-up,
> preventing the attached qdisc from dequeueing packets and causing the
> network link to halt.
>
> As a first step towards resolving this issue, this patch introduces a
> failsafe mechanism. It enables the net device watchdog by setting a timeout
> value and implements the .ndo_tx_timeout callback.
>
> If a TXQ stalls, the watchdog will trigger the veth_tx_timeout() function,
> which logs a warning and calls netif_tx_wake_queue() to unstall the queue
> and allow traffic to resume.
>
> The log message will look like this:
>
>  veth42: NETDEV WATCHDOG: CPU: 34: transmit queue 0 timed out 5393 ms
>  veth42: veth backpressure stalled(n:1) TXQ(0) re-enable
>
> This provides a necessary recovery mechanism while the underlying race
> condition is investigated further. Subsequent patches will address the root
> cause and add more robust state handling in ndo_open/ndo_stop.
>
> Fixes: dc82a33297fc ("veth: apply qdisc backpressure on full ptr_ring to reduce TX drops")
> Signed-off-by: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>
> ---
>  drivers/net/veth.c |   16 +++++++++++++++-
>  1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/net/veth.c b/drivers/net/veth.c
> index a3046142cb8e..7b1a9805b270 100644
> --- a/drivers/net/veth.c
> +++ b/drivers/net/veth.c
> @@ -959,8 +959,10 @@ static int veth_xdp_rcv(struct veth_rq *rq, int budget,
>  	rq->stats.vs.xdp_packets += done;
>  	u64_stats_update_end(&rq->stats.syncp);
>  
> -	if (peer_txq && unlikely(netif_tx_queue_stopped(peer_txq)))
> +	if (peer_txq && unlikely(netif_tx_queue_stopped(peer_txq))) {
> +		txq_trans_cond_update(peer_txq);
>  		netif_tx_wake_queue(peer_txq);
> +	}

Hmm, seems a bit weird that this call to txq_trans_cond_update() is only
in veth_xdp_recv(). Shouldn't there (also?) be one in veth_xmit()?

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-24 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-23 14:59 [PATCH net V1 0/3] veth: Fix TXQ stall race condition and add recovery Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-10-23 14:59 ` [PATCH net V1 1/3] veth: enable dev_watchdog for detecting stalled TXQs Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-10-24 13:39   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2025-10-27 11:41     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-10-27 14:09       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-10-27 16:18         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-10-23 14:59 ` [PATCH net V1 2/3] veth: stop and start all TX queue in netdev down/up Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-10-25  0:54   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-10-27 10:33     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-10-23 14:59 ` [PATCH net V1 3/3] veth: more robust handing of race to avoid txq getting stuck Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-10-24 14:33   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-10-27 12:19     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2025-10-27 14:12       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2025-10-27 19:22   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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