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From: Rahul Rameshbabu <rrameshbabu@nvidia.com>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	Gal Pressman <gal@nvidia.com>,
	Vincent Cheng <vincent.cheng.xh@renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next 03/15] net/mlx5: Add adjphase function to support hardware-only offset control
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 18:48:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rhuj78u.fsf@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y83vgvTBnCYCzp49@hoboy.vegasvil.org> (Richard Cochran's message of "Sun, 22 Jan 2023 18:22:58 -0800")

On Sun, 22 Jan, 2023 18:22:58 -0800 Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 01:11:57PM -0800, Rahul Rameshbabu wrote:
>
>> The way NVIDIA devices internally handle adjphase is to adjust the
>> frequency for a short period of time to make the small time offset
>> adjustments smooth (using some internal calculations) where the time
>> offset "nudge" is applied but frequency is also adjusted to prevent
>> immediate drift after that time adjustment.
>
> Whatever floats your boat.
>
>> However, we aren't sure if
>> this is the only approach possible to achieve accurate corrections for
>> small offset adjustments with adjphase,
>
> Typically one would implement a PI controller.
>
>> so I would suggest that the
>> documentation be updated to state something discussing that adjphase is
>> expected to support small jumps in offset precisely without necessarily
>> bringing up frequency manipulation potentially done to achieve this.
>
> Sorry if the docs aren't clear.  (However, the use of NTP timex
> ADJ_FREQUENCY and ADJ_OFFSET really should be clear to everyone
> familiar with NTP.)
>
> Bottom line: PHC that offers adjphase should implement a clock servo.

adjphase/ADJ_OFFSET is a servo implemented in the kernel space/offloaded
to the device. That makes sense.

Another question then is can adjtime/ADJ_SETOFFSET make use of this
servo implementation on the device or is there a strict expectation that
adjtime/ADJ_SETOFFSET is purely a function that adds the offset to the
current current time? If adjphase is implemented by a driver, should
ADJ_SETOFFSET try to make use of it in the ptp stack if the offset
provided is supported by the adjphase implementation?

This question was asked earlier in the mailing thread.

>
> Thanks,
> Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-23  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-18 18:35 [pull request][net-next 00/15] mlx5 updates 2023-01-18 Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 01/15] net/mlx5e: Suppress Send WQEBB room warning for PAGE_SIZE >= 16KB Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:31   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-20  4:00   ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 02/15] net/mlx5: Suppress error logging on UCTX creation Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:32   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 03/15] net/mlx5: Add adjphase function to support hardware-only offset control Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:33   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-20  3:46     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  3:56       ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20  4:03         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  4:26           ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20  5:08             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  5:22               ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20  5:45                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  6:02                   ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20 17:21             ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-20 18:00               ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20 23:58                 ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-21  0:06                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-22 21:11                     ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-23  2:22                       ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23  2:48                         ` Rahul Rameshbabu [this message]
2023-01-23  2:58                           ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23 18:44                             ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-23 19:13                               ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-23 22:39                                 ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23 22:36                               ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-24 10:33                                 ` Bar Shapira
2023-01-24 19:15                                   ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-25  0:48                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-25  2:26                                       ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-25  8:28                                       ` Gal Pressman
2023-01-23  2:15                   ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23 18:14                     ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 04/15] net/mlx5: Add hardware extended range support for PTP adjtime and adjphase Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:35   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 05/15] net/mlx5: E-switch, Remove redundant comment about meta rules Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:40   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 06/15] net/mlx5e: Fail with messages when params are not valid for XSK Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:41   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 07/15] net/mlx5e: Add warning when log WQE size is smaller than log stride size Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:42   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 08/15] net/mlx5e: TC, Pass flow attr to attach/detach mod hdr functions Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:42   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 09/15] net/mlx5e: TC, Add tc prefix to attach/detach " Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:44   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 10/15] net/mlx5e: TC, Use common function allocating flow mod hdr or encap mod hdr Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:45   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 11/15] net/mlx5e: Warn when destroying mod hdr hash table that is not empty Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:45   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 12/15] net/mlx5: E-Switch, Fix typo for egress Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:46   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:36 ` [net-next 13/15] net/mlx5e: Support Geneve and GRE with VF tunnel offload Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:48   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:36 ` [net-next 14/15] net/mlx5e: Remove redundant allocation of spec in create indirect fwd group Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:50   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:36 ` [net-next 15/15] net/mlx5e: Use read lock for eswitch get callbacks Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:51   ` Jacob Keller

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