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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen.hemminger@vyatta.com>
Cc: Eugene Teo <eugeneteo@kernel.sg>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Eugene Teo <eteo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Internet-Draft on Port Randomisation
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:28:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878wu1tmup.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48C60284.2070402@vyatta.com> (Stephen Hemminger's message of "Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:58:44 -0700")

Stephen Hemminger <stephen.hemminger@vyatta.com> writes:

> Eugene Teo wrote:
>> Has anyone read this Internet-Draft?
>> http://www.gont.com.ar/drafts/port-randomization/draft-ietf-tsvwg-port-randomization-02.txt
>>
>> In this memo, there are descriptions of four different ephemeral port
>> randomisation algorithms (see page 17).
>>
>> Algo #1 and #2 are simple port randomisation algorithms. Algo #3 is
>> what we have in Linux. The memo suggested algorithm #4, double-hash
>> randomisation algorithm, which is an improvement to algo #3 (see page
>> 15).
>>
>> Does anyone have any thought about the improved algorithm? Is this
>> worth implementing,
> No the added lock overhead of a global next free port array is not
> worth it. 

[haven't read the draft] But you don't necessarily need a full global
lock for such a scheme. What works too is to access global state only
ever N accesses and pre-allocate a small range per CPU. While there's
still some global overhead then, it happens significantly less. My old
alternative ipid setup algorithm worked this way.

One drawback of such a scheme today: on RT kernels the per CPU state
tends to be become a problem.

-Andi
-- 
ak@linux.intel.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-09 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-09  4:07 Internet-Draft on Port Randomisation Eugene Teo
2008-09-09  4:58 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-09-09  6:31   ` Eugene Teo
2008-09-09 14:28   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-09-09 20:04     ` David Miller
2008-09-09 20:11       ` Andi Kleen

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