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From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@kernel.org>
To: Heiko Thiery <heiko.thiery@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Ajay.Kathat@microchip.com, Claudiu.Beznea@microchip.com,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Amisha.Patel@microchip.com, Thomas Haller <thaller@redhat.com>,
	Beniamino Galvani <bgalvani@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: wilc1000 MAC address is 00:00:00:00:00:00
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 11:25:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkm1x47n.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEyMn7bpwusVarzHa262maJHf6XTpCW4SL0-o+YH4DGZx94+hw@mail.gmail.com> (Heiko Thiery's message of "Fri, 10 Feb 2023 10:17:24 +0100")

Heiko Thiery <heiko.thiery@gmail.com> writes:

> HI,
>
> Am Do., 9. Feb. 2023 um 22:19 Uhr schrieb Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>:
>>
>> Am 2023-02-09 22:07, schrieb Jakub Kicinski:
>> > On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:51:58 +0000 Ajay.Kathat@microchip.com wrote:
>> >> > netdev should be created with a valid lladdr, is there something
>> >> > wifi-specific here that'd prevalent that? The canonical flow is
>> >> > to this before registering the netdev:
>> >>
>> >> Here it's the timing in wilc1000 by when the MAC address is available
>> >> to
>> >> read from NV. NV read is available in "mac_open" net_device_ops
>> >> instead
>> >> of bus probe function. I think, mostly the operations on netdev which
>> >> make use of mac address are performed after the "mac_open" (I may be
>> >> missing something).
>> >>
>> >> Does it make sense to assign a random address in probe and later read
>> >> back from NV in mac_open to make use of stored value?
>> >
>> > Hard to say, I'd suspect that may be even more confusing than
>> > starting with zeroes. There aren't any hard rules around the
>> > addresses AFAIK, but addrs are visible to user space. So user
>> > space will likely make assumptions based on the most commonly
>> > observed sequence (reading real addr at probe).
>>
>> Maybe we should also ask the NetworkManager guys. IMHO random
>> MAC address sounds bogus.
>
> Maybe it would be a "workaround" with loading the firmware while
> probing the device to set the real hw address.
>
> probe()
>   load_fw()
>   read_hw_addr_from_nv()
>   eth_hw_addr_set(ndev, addr)
>   unload_fw()
>
> mac_open()
>   load_fw()
>
> mac_close()
>   unload_fw()

This is exactly what many wireless drivers already do and I recommend
that wilc1000 would do the same.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-10  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-08 14:24 wilc1000 MAC address is 00:00:00:00:00:00 Heiko Thiery
2023-02-09 17:15 ` Ajay.Kathat
2023-02-09 17:48   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-02-09 18:51     ` Ajay.Kathat
2023-02-09 21:07       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-02-09 21:19         ` Michael Walle
2023-02-10  9:17           ` Heiko Thiery
2023-02-10  9:25             ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2023-02-10 19:12               ` Ajay.Kathat
2023-02-10 21:28                 ` Dan Williams
2023-02-15 20:14                   ` Johannes Berg
2023-02-23 10:44                     ` Heiko Thiery
2023-02-23 21:48                       ` Ajay.Kathat
2023-02-09 18:40   ` Heiko Thiery
2023-02-09 19:09     ` Ajay.Kathat

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