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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Toshiaki Makita <toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 2/4] veth: allow enabling NAPI even without XDP
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 17:29:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87blaegsda.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9b5f599380d32a28026d5a758cc46edf2ba23d8.camel@redhat.com>

Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> writes:

> On Fri, 2021-04-09 at 16:58 +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> writes:
>> 
>> > Currently the veth device has the GRO feature bit set, even if
>> > no GRO aggregation is possible with the default configuration,
>> > as the veth device does not hook into the GRO engine.
>> > 
>> > Flipping the GRO feature bit from user-space is a no-op, unless
>> > XDP is enabled. In such scenario GRO could actually take place, but
>> > TSO is forced to off on the peer device.
>> > 
>> > This change allow user-space to really control the GRO feature, with
>> > no need for an XDP program.
>> > 
>> > The GRO feature bit is now cleared by default - so that there are no
>> > user-visible behavior changes with the default configuration.
>> > 
>> > When the GRO bit is set, the per-queue NAPI instances are initialized
>> > and registered. On xmit, when napi instances are available, we try
>> > to use them.
>> 
>> Am I mistaken in thinking that this also makes XDP redirect into a veth
>> work without having to load an XDP program on the peer device? That's
>> been a long-outstanding thing we've been meaning to fix, so that would
>> be awesome! :)
>
> I have not experimented that, and I admit gross ignorance WRT this
> argument, but AFAICS the needed bits to get XDP redirect working on
> veth are the ptr_ring initialization and the napi instance available.
>
> With this patch both are in place when GRO is enabled, so I guess XPD
> redirect should work, too (modulo bugs for untested scenario).

OK, finally got around to testing this; it doesn't quite work with just
your patch, because veth_xdp_xmit() still checks for rq->xdp_prog
instead of rq->napi. Fixing this indeed enabled veth to be an
XDP_REDIRECT target without an XDP program loaded on the peer. So yay!
I'll send a followup fixing that check.

So with this we seem to have some nice improvements in both
functionality and performance when GRO is turned on; so any reason why
we shouldn't just flip the default to on?

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-16 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-09 11:04 [PATCH net-next 0/4] veth: allow GRO even without XDP Paolo Abeni
2021-04-09 11:04 ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] veth: use skb_orphan_partial instead of skb_orphan Paolo Abeni
2021-04-09 11:04 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] veth: allow enabling NAPI even without XDP Paolo Abeni
2021-04-09 14:58   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-04-09 15:20     ` Paolo Abeni
2021-04-16 15:29       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2021-04-16 17:26         ` Paolo Abeni
2021-04-16 18:19           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-04-09 11:04 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] veth: refine napi usage Paolo Abeni
2021-04-09 14:57   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-04-09 15:07     ` Paolo Abeni
2021-04-09 15:18       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-04-09 11:04 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] self-tests: add veth tests Paolo Abeni
2021-04-12  0:10 ` [PATCH net-next 0/4] veth: allow GRO even without XDP patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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