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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Guillaume Nault <gnault@redhat.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	Russell Strong <russell@strong.id.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/4] inet: Separate DSCP from ECN bits using new dscp_t type
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 18:55:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czlvazfk.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211215164826.GA3426@pc-1.home>

>> > Note that there's no equivalent of patch 3 for IPv6 (ip route), since
>> > the tos/dsfield option is silently ignored for IPv6 routes.
>> 
>> Shouldn't we just start rejecting them, like for v4?
>
> I had some thoughs about that, but didn't talk about them in the cover
> letter since I felt there was already enough edge cases to discuss, and
> this one wasn't directly related to this series (the problem is there
> regardless of this RFC).
>
> So, on the one hand, we have this old policy of ignoring unknown
> netlink attributes, so it looks consistent to also ignore unused
> structure fields.
>
> On the other hand, ignoring rtm_tos leads to a different behaviour than
> what was requested. So it certainly makes sense to at least warn the
> user. But a hard fail may break existing programs that don't clear
> rtm_tos by mistake.
>
> I'm not too sure which approach is better.

So I guess you could argue that those applications were broken in the
first place, and so an explicit reject would only expose this? Do you
know of any applications that actually *function* while doing what you
describe?

One thought could be to add the rejection but be prepared to back it out
if it does turn out (during the -rc phase) that it breaks something?

-Toke


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-17 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-06 18:22 [PATCH net-next 0/4] inet: Separate DSCP from ECN bits using new dscp_t type Guillaume Nault
2021-12-06 18:22 ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] ipv6: Define dscp_t and stop taking ECN bits into account in ip6-rules Guillaume Nault
2021-12-06 18:22 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] ipv4: Stop taking ECN bits into account in ip4-rules Guillaume Nault
2021-12-06 18:22 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] ipv4: Reject routes specifying ECN bits in rtm_tos Guillaume Nault
2021-12-06 18:22 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] ipv4: Use dscp_t in struct fib_alias Guillaume Nault
2021-12-06 19:57 ` [PATCH net-next 0/4] inet: Separate DSCP from ECN bits using new dscp_t type Guillaume Nault
2021-12-14  0:16 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-12-15 16:48   ` Guillaume Nault
2021-12-15 20:40     ` Dave Taht
2021-12-17 17:55     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2021-12-17 22:52       ` Guillaume Nault
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-04 13:58 Guillaume Nault
2022-02-07  6:08 ` David Ahern
2022-02-07 19:03 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-02-08  5:10 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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