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From: Rahul Rameshbabu <rrameshbabu@nvidia.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeed@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>, Gal Pressman <gal@nvidia.com>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Vincent Cheng <vincent.cheng.xh@renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next 03/15] net/mlx5: Add adjphase function to support hardware-only offset control
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:02:16 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsc5u4k7.fsf@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230119214516.59adab05@kernel.org> (Jakub Kicinski's message of "Thu, 19 Jan 2023 21:45:16 -0800")

On Thu, 19 Jan, 2023 21:45:16 -0800 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 21:22:00 -0800 Rahul Rameshbabu wrote:
>> > Hm, so are you saying that:
>> >
>> > adjtime(delta):
>> > 	clock += delta
>> >
>> > but:
>> >
>> > adjfreq(delta):  
>> 
>> Did you mean adjphase here?
>
> Yes, sorry
>
>> > 	on clock tick & while delta > 0:
>> > 		clock += small_value
>> > 		delta -= small_value
>> >
>> > because from looking at mlx5 driver code its unclear whether the
>> > implementation does a precise but one shot adjustment or gradual
>> > adjustments.  
>> 
>> The pseudo code your drafted is accurate otherwise. The lack of clarity
>> in our driver comes from leaving the responsibility of that smooth
>> gradual transition (to keep in sync with the clock frequency while
>> running) up to the device.
>
> Ah, I see. That makes sense. This is how system clocks react too 
> or is it a local PTP invention? I think it may be worth documenting 
> in ptp_clock_kernel.h, most driver authors may not understand 
> the difference between adjtime and adjphase :(

I think this concept was uniquely proposed for ptp core stack. I do not
think I have seen this explicit differenciation before (but maybe
internal implementations do take a similar approach).

I agree with improving the documentation of adjphase vs adjtime in
ptp_clock_kernel.h

 * @adjphase:  Adjusts the phase offset of the hardware clock.
 *             parameter delta: Desired change in nanoseconds.
 *
 * @adjtime:  Shifts the time of the hardware clock.
 *            parameter delta: Desired change in nanoseconds.

This doesn't really help much in terms of understanding the difference
of adjusting the phase vs shifting the time. The quote from Vincent I
provided in my previous email was in response to a question raised by
Aya Levin who was working on timing related features in the mlx5 driver.

https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/228ceba4-47a8-49ef-994a-fe898cdc7fc1@nvidia.com/

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-20  6:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-18 18:35 [pull request][net-next 00/15] mlx5 updates 2023-01-18 Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 01/15] net/mlx5e: Suppress Send WQEBB room warning for PAGE_SIZE >= 16KB Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:31   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-20  4:00   ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 02/15] net/mlx5: Suppress error logging on UCTX creation Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:32   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 03/15] net/mlx5: Add adjphase function to support hardware-only offset control Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:33   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-20  3:46     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  3:56       ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20  4:03         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  4:26           ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20  5:08             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  5:22               ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20  5:45                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-20  6:02                   ` Rahul Rameshbabu [this message]
2023-01-20 17:21             ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-20 18:00               ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-20 23:58                 ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-21  0:06                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-22 21:11                     ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-23  2:22                       ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23  2:48                         ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-23  2:58                           ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23 18:44                             ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-23 19:13                               ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-23 22:39                                 ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23 22:36                               ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-24 10:33                                 ` Bar Shapira
2023-01-24 19:15                                   ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-25  0:48                                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-25  2:26                                       ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-01-25  8:28                                       ` Gal Pressman
2023-01-23  2:15                   ` Richard Cochran
2023-01-23 18:14                     ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 04/15] net/mlx5: Add hardware extended range support for PTP adjtime and adjphase Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:35   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 05/15] net/mlx5: E-switch, Remove redundant comment about meta rules Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:40   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 06/15] net/mlx5e: Fail with messages when params are not valid for XSK Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:41   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 07/15] net/mlx5e: Add warning when log WQE size is smaller than log stride size Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:42   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 08/15] net/mlx5e: TC, Pass flow attr to attach/detach mod hdr functions Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:42   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 09/15] net/mlx5e: TC, Add tc prefix to attach/detach " Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:44   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 10/15] net/mlx5e: TC, Use common function allocating flow mod hdr or encap mod hdr Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:45   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 11/15] net/mlx5e: Warn when destroying mod hdr hash table that is not empty Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:45   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:35 ` [net-next 12/15] net/mlx5: E-Switch, Fix typo for egress Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:46   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:36 ` [net-next 13/15] net/mlx5e: Support Geneve and GRE with VF tunnel offload Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:48   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:36 ` [net-next 14/15] net/mlx5e: Remove redundant allocation of spec in create indirect fwd group Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:50   ` Jacob Keller
2023-01-18 18:36 ` [net-next 15/15] net/mlx5e: Use read lock for eswitch get callbacks Saeed Mahameed
2023-01-18 21:51   ` Jacob Keller

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