From: Tobias Waldekranz <tobias@waldekranz.com>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: "netdev\@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"kuba\@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"andrew\@lunn.ch" <andrew@lunn.ch>,
"f.fainelli\@gmail.com" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
"vivien.didelot\@gmail.com" <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: dsa: reference count the host mdb addresses
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 10:34:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ft4t965m.fsf@waldekranz.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201128002717.buvgy3unu6af5ejj@skbuf>
On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 00:27, Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 12:58:10AM +0100, Tobias Waldekranz wrote:
>> That sounds like a good idea. We have run into another issue with the
>> MDB that maybe could be worked into this changeset. This is what we have
>> observed on 4.19, but from looking at the source it does not look like
>> anything has changed with respect to this issue.
>>
>> The DSA driver handles the addition/removal of router ports by
>> enabling/disabling multicast flooding to the port in question. On
>> mv88e6xxx at least, this is only part of the solution. It only takes
>> care of the unregistered multicast. You also have to iterate through all
>> _registered_ groups and add the port to the destination vector.
>
> And this observation is based on what? Based on this paragraph from RFC4541?
Well in all honesty, it is mostly based on information from a colleague
of mine who knows the ins and outs of all these RFCs.
> 2.1.2. Data Forwarding Rules
>
> 1) Packets with a destination IP address outside 224.0.0.X which are
> not IGMP should be forwarded according to group-based port
> membership tables and must also be forwarded on router ports.
...but yes, that paragraph does not leave a lot of wiggle room :)
> Let me ask you a different question. Why would DSA be in charge of
> updating the MDB records, and not the bridge? Or why DSA and not the end
> driver? Ignore my patch. I'm just trying to understand what you're
> saying. Why precisely DSA, the mid layer? I don't know, this is new
> information to me, I'm still digesting it.
The bridge has all the necessary information for sure. But it has a
different model with a separate list of router ports. Then in
br_multicast_flood you simply forward to the union of the group entry
and the router ports. It is not the bridge's fault that our hardware
does not have a separate bitmask for router ports. Some hardware may
very well have it.
I guess we could create internal APIs to the bridge to retrieve the
information though. There is already `bool br_multicast_router(dev)`, so
we should only need to add `bool br_multicast_member(dev, group, vid)`.
Assuming that those were available we should be able to solve it either
at the DSA or the driver layer. I seem to recall some issue that forced
us to place the cache at the dst level, but I would have to go through
the implementation to figure out what that issue was.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-28 22:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-15 21:27 [PATCH net] net: dsa: reference count the host mdb addresses Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-19 23:55 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-20 0:07 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-20 0:13 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-20 0:06 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-20 0:28 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-20 2:11 ` Florian Fainelli
2020-11-27 21:41 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-27 23:58 ` Tobias Waldekranz
2020-11-28 0:27 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-11-28 9:34 ` Tobias Waldekranz [this message]
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