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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	kuba@kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	brouer@redhat.com, pabeni@redhat.com, echaudro@redhat.com,
	toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com, andrii@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 bpf-next 2/3] veth: rework veth_xdp_rcv_skb in order to accept non-linear skb
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 20:06:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ilsly6db.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YinkUiv/yC/gJhYZ@lore-desk>

Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com> writes:

>> Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org> writes:
>> 
>> > Introduce veth_convert_xdp_buff_from_skb routine in order to
>> > convert a non-linear skb into a xdp buffer. If the received skb
>> > is cloned or shared, veth_convert_xdp_buff_from_skb will copy it
>> > in a new skb composed by order-0 pages for the linear and the
>> > fragmented area. Moreover veth_convert_xdp_buff_from_skb guarantees
>> > we have enough headroom for xdp.
>> > This is a preliminary patch to allow attaching xdp programs with frags
>> > support on veth devices.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
>> 
>> It's cool that we can do this! A few comments below:
>
> Hi Toke,
>
> thx for the review :)
>
> [...]
>
>> > +static int veth_convert_xdp_buff_from_skb(struct veth_rq *rq,
>> > +					  struct xdp_buff *xdp,
>> > +					  struct sk_buff **pskb)
>> > +{
>> 
>> nit: It's not really "converting" and skb into an xdp_buff, since the
>> xdp_buff lives on the stack; so maybe 'veth_init_xdp_buff_from_skb()'?
>
> I kept the previous naming convention used for xdp_convert_frame_to_buff()
> (my goal would be to move it in xdp.c and reuse this routine for the
> generic-xdp use case) but I am fine with
> veth_init_xdp_buff_from_skb().

Consistency is probably good, but right now we have functions of the
form 'xdp_convert_X_to_Y()' and 'xdp_update_Y_from_X()'. So to follow
that you'd have either 'veth_update_xdp_buff_from_skb()' or
'veth_convert_skb_to_xdp_buff()' :)

>> > +	struct sk_buff *skb = *pskb;
>> > +	u32 frame_sz;
>> >  
>> >  	if (skb_shared(skb) || skb_head_is_locked(skb) ||
>> > -	    skb_is_nonlinear(skb) || headroom < XDP_PACKET_HEADROOM) {
>> > +	    skb_shinfo(skb)->nr_frags) {
>> 
>> So this always clones the skb if it has frags? Is that really needed?
>
> if we look at skb_cow_data(), paged area is always considered not writable

Ah, right, did not know that. Seems a bit odd, but OK.

>> Also, there's a lot of memory allocation and copying going on here; have
>> you measured the performance?
>
> even in the previous implementation we always reallocate the skb if the
> conditions above are verified so I do not expect any difference in the single
> buffer use-case but I will run some performance tests.

No, I wouldn't expect any difference for the single-buffer case, but I
would also be interested in how big the overhead is of having to copy
the whole jumbo-frame?

BTW, just noticed one other change - before we had:

> -	headroom = skb_headroom(skb) - mac_len;
>  	if (skb_shared(skb) || skb_head_is_locked(skb) ||
> -	    skb_is_nonlinear(skb) || headroom < XDP_PACKET_HEADROOM) {


And in your patch that becomes:

> +	} else if (skb_headroom(skb) < XDP_PACKET_HEADROOM &&
> +		   pskb_expand_head(skb, VETH_XDP_HEADROOM, 0, GFP_ATOMIC)) {
> +		goto drop;


So the mac_len subtraction disappeared; that seems wrong?

>> > +
>> > +	if (xdp_buff_has_frags(&xdp))
>> > +		skb->data_len = skb_shinfo(skb)->xdp_frags_size;
>> > +	else
>> > +		skb->data_len = 0;
>> 
>> We can remove entire frags using xdp_adjust_tail, right? Will that get
>> propagated in the right way to the skb frags due to the dual use of
>> skb_shared_info, or?
>
> bpf_xdp_frags_shrink_tail() can remove entire frags and it will modify
> metadata contained in the skb_shared_info (e.g. nr_frags or the frag
> size of the given page). We should consider the data_len field in this
> case. Agree?

Right, that's what I assumed; makes sense. But adding a comment
mentioning this above the update of data_len might be helpful? :)

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-10 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-08 16:05 [PATCH v4 bpf-next 0/3] introduce xdp frags support to veth driver Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-03-08 16:05 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 1/3] net: veth: account total xdp_frame len running ndo_xdp_xmit Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-03-10 11:10   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-15  5:32   ` John Fastabend
2022-03-08 16:05 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 2/3] veth: rework veth_xdp_rcv_skb in order to accept non-linear skb Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-03-10 11:21   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-10 11:43     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-03-10 19:06       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2022-03-10 19:26         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-03-10 23:46           ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-03-12 21:18         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-03-08 16:06 ` [PATCH v4 bpf-next 3/3] veth: allow jumbo frames in xdp mode Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-03-10 11:30   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-03-10 15:06     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-03-10 18:53       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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