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From: Tobias Waldekranz <tobias@waldekranz.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] net: phy/mdio: enable mmd indirect access through phy_mii_ioctl()
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2021 14:06:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k0hojci9.fsf@waldekranz.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YYPThd7aX+TBWslz@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 12:35, "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 04, 2021 at 12:17:47PM +0100, Tobias Waldekranz wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 20:36, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Nov 03, 2021 at 08:42:07PM +0200, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On 03/11/2021 02:27, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> >> > > > What i find interesting is that you and the other resent requester are
>> >> > > > using the same user space tool. If you implement C45 over C22 in that
>> >> > > > tool, you get your solution, and it will work for older kernels as
>> >> > > > well. Also, given the diverse implementations of this IOTCL, it
>> >> > > > probably works for more drivers than just those using phy_mii_ioctl().
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > Do you mean change uapi, like
>> >> > >   add mdio_phy_id_is_c45_over_c22() and
>> >> > >   flag #define MDIO_PHY_ID_C45_OVER_C22 0x4000?
>> >> > 
>> >> > No, i mean user space implements C45 over C22. Make phytool write
>> >> > MII_MMD_CTRL and MII_MMD_DATA to perform a C45 over C22.
>> >> 
>> >> Now I give up - as mentioned there is now way to sync User space vs Kernel
>> >> MMD transactions and so no way to get trusted results.
>> 
>> Except that there is a way: https://github.com/wkz/mdio-tools
>
> I'm guessing that this hasn't had much in the way of review, as it has
> a nice exploitable bug - you really want "pc" to be unsigned in
> mdio_nl_eval(), otherwise one can write a branch instruction that makes
> "pc" negative.

You are quite right, it never got that far as it was NAKed on principle
before that. I welcome the review, this is one of the reasons why I
would love to have it in mainline. Alternatively, if someone has a
better idea, I wouldn't mind adapting mdio-tools to whatever that
interface would be.

I agree that there should be much more rigorous checks around the
modification of the PC. I will get on that.

> Also it looks like one can easily exploit this to trigger any of your
> BUG_ON()/BUG() statements, thereby crashing while holding the MDIO bus
> lock causing a denial of service attack.

The idea is that this is pre-validated in mdio_nl_validate_insn. Each
instruction lists their acceptable argument types in mdio_nl_op_protos.

> I also see nothing that protects against any user on a system being
> able to use this interface, so the exploits above can be triggered by
> any user. Moreover, this lack of protection means any user on the
> system can use this interface to write to a PHY.

I was under the impression that specifying GENL_ADMIN_PERM in the
`struct genl_ops` would require the caller to hold CAP_NET_ADMIN?

> Given that some PHYs today contain firmware, this gives anyone access
> to reprogram the PHY firmware, possibly introducing malicious firmware.
>
> I hope no one is using this module in a production environment.

Thanks for your review.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-04 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-01 18:28 [RFC PATCH] net: phy/mdio: enable mmd indirect access through phy_mii_ioctl() Grygorii Strashko
2021-11-01 19:33 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-11-01 19:54   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-02  0:49     ` Andrew Lunn
2021-11-02 12:39       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-02 17:13         ` Andrew Lunn
2021-11-02 19:46           ` Sean Anderson
2021-11-02 23:38             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-04 15:05               ` Sean Anderson
2021-11-02 17:19         ` Grygorii Strashko
2021-11-02 17:41           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-02 18:37             ` Grygorii Strashko
2021-11-02 19:12               ` Grygorii Strashko
2021-11-02 21:46                 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-11-02 22:22                   ` Grygorii Strashko
2021-11-03  0:27                     ` Andrew Lunn
2021-11-03 18:42                       ` Grygorii Strashko
2021-11-03 19:36                         ` Andrew Lunn
2021-11-04 11:17                           ` Tobias Waldekranz
2021-11-04 12:35                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-04 12:40                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-11-04 13:13                                 ` Tobias Waldekranz
2021-11-04 13:06                               ` Tobias Waldekranz [this message]

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