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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Gao feng <gaofeng@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND 1/2] neigh: only allow init_net to change the default neigh_parms
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:27:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k3lypzpk.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51B91DC0.4010707@cn.fujitsu.com> (Gao feng's message of "Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:17:52 +0800")

Gao feng <gaofeng@cn.fujitsu.com> writes:

> On 06/12/2013 03:33 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Gao feng <gaofeng@cn.fujitsu.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Though we don't export the /proc/sys/net/ipv[4,6]/neigh/default/
>>> directory to the un-init_net, but we can still use cmd such as
>>> "ip ntable change name arp_cache locktime 129" to change the locktime
>>> of default neigh_parms.
>>>
>>> This patch disallows the un-init_net to find out the neigh_table.parms.
>>> So the un-init_net will failed to influence the init_net.
>> 
>> Interesting...  
>> 
>> The problem these two patches seek to address seems legit.
>> 
>> However I disagree with the way you are handling this.
>> 
>> Outside of the initial network namespace we should return -ENOENT
>> instead of -EPERM.  Which would match how we handle sysctls, and I think
>> missing neigh table values.  Just not making these global values visible
>> seems wise.
>> 
>
> Ok, it seems more reasonable.
>
>> The alternative is to use the proper permission test which is
>> capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) (instead of testing network namespaces) and
>> return -EPERM if that fails.  Which would allow processes in other
>> network namespaces to change the value if they could otherwise change
>> the value.
>> 
>
> So you mean the uninitial net namespace can't see these values but it
> can change them? it's too strange.

Sorry I was saying that if you don't want to hide the values the
permissions and (-EPERM) should track the user namespace not the network
namespace.

> And the thresh/interval are both under default/ too, if we return -ENOENT
> for other items, we should also return -ENOENT for them instead of the
> -EPERM.

Yes.  Let's return hide the global values and just return -ENOENT for
everything.  That seems simplest.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-13  1:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-12  4:44 [PATCH RESEND 1/2] neigh: only allow init_net to change the default neigh_parms Gao feng
2013-06-12  4:44 ` [PATCH RESEND 2/2] neigh: disallow un-init_net to change thresh of neigh Gao feng
2013-06-12  7:33 ` [PATCH RESEND 1/2] neigh: only allow init_net to change the default neigh_parms Eric W. Biederman
2013-06-13  1:17   ` Gao feng
2013-06-13  1:27     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2013-06-13  3:44       ` Gao feng

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