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From: Petr Machata <petrm@nvidia.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Petr Machata <petrm@nvidia.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>, Amit Cohen <amcohen@nvidia.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	"Andy Roulin" <aroulin@nvidia.com>, <mlxsw@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 0/8] net: Shift responsibility for FDB notifications to drivers
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2024 12:43:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ldxzky77.fsf@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241029121807.1a00ae7d@kernel.org>


Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> writes:

> On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 18:57:35 +0200 Petr Machata wrote:
>> Besides this approach, we considered just passing a boolean back from the
>> driver, which would indicate whether the notification was done. But the
>> approach presented here seems cleaner.
>
> Oops, I missed the v2, same question:
>
>   What about adding a bit to the ops struct to indicate that 
>   the driver will generate the notification? Seems smaller in 
>   terms of LoC and shifts the responsibility of doing extra
>   work towards more complex users.
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241029121619.1a710601@kernel.org/

Sorry for only responding now, I was out of office last week.

The reason I went with outright responsibility shift is that the
alternatives are more complex.

For the flag in particular, first there's no place to set the flag
currently, we'd need a field in struct net_device_ops. But mainly, then
you have a code that needs to corrently handle both states of the flag,
and new-style drivers need to remember to set the flag, which is done in
a different place from the fdb_add/del themselves. It might be fewer
LOCs, but it's a harder to understand system.

Responsibility shift is easy. "Thou shalt notify." Done, easy to
understand, easy to document. When cut'n'pasting, you won't miss it.

Let me know what you think.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-04 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-24 16:57 [PATCH net-next v2 0/8] net: Shift responsibility for FDB notifications to drivers Petr Machata
2024-10-24 16:57 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/8] net: rtnetlink: Publish rtnl_fdb_notify() Petr Machata
2024-10-24 16:57 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/8] ndo_fdb_add: Shift responsibility for notifying to drivers Petr Machata
2024-10-24 16:57 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/8] ndo_fdb_del: " Petr Machata
2024-10-24 16:57 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/8] selftests: net: lib: Move logging from forwarding/lib.sh here Petr Machata
2024-10-24 16:57 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/8] selftests: net: lib: Move tests_run " Petr Machata
2024-10-24 16:57 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/8] selftests: net: lib: Move checks " Petr Machata
2024-10-24 16:57 ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/8] selftests: net: lib: Add kill_process Petr Machata
2024-10-24 16:57 ` [PATCH net-next v2 8/8] selftests: net: fdb_notify: Add a test for FDB notifications Petr Machata
2024-10-29 19:18 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/8] net: Shift responsibility for FDB notifications to drivers Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-04 11:43   ` Petr Machata [this message]
2024-11-05  3:06     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-11-05  9:11     ` Paolo Abeni
2024-11-05  9:45       ` Petr Machata
2024-11-05 10:12         ` Paolo Abeni
2024-11-05 11:38           ` Petr Machata

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