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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	David Ahern <dahern@digitalocean.com>
Cc: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next] virtio_net: Relax queue requirement for using XDP
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 22:31:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8tlxcgy.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200226120706-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> writes:

> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 08:58:47AM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
>> On 2/26/20 1:34 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> >>
>> >> OK so basically there would be commands to configure which TX queue is
>> >> used by XDP. With enough resources default is to use dedicated queues.
>> >> With not enough resources default is to fail binding xdp program
>> >> unless queues are specified. Does this sound reasonable?
>> > 
>> > Yeah, that was the idea. See this talk from LPC last year for more
>> > details: https://linuxplumbersconf.org/event/4/contributions/462/
>> 
>>  Hopefully such a design is only required for a program doing a Tx path
>> (XDP_TX or XDP_REDIRECT). i.e., a program just doing basic ACL, NAT, or
>> even encap, decap, should not have to do anything with Tx queues to load
>> and run the program.
>
> Well when XDP was starting up it wasn't too late to require
> meta data about which codes can be returned (e.g. whether program
> can do tx). But by now there's a body of binary programs out there,
> it's probably too late ...

Well, right now things just fail silently if the system is configured
without support for a feature the XDP program is using (e.g., redirect
to an unsupported iface will just drop the packet). So arguably,
rejecting a program is an improvement :) There's ongoing work to define
a notion of XDP features (see [0]). Whether we can turn it on by
default, or if it has to be opt-in on program load/attach remains to be
seem. But it is definitely something we should improve upon :)

-Toke

[0] See https://github.com/xdp-project/xdp-project/blob/master/xdp-project.org#xdp-feature-flags


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-26 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-26  0:57 [PATCH RFC net-next] virtio_net: Relax queue requirement for using XDP David Ahern
2020-02-26  1:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-26  3:00 ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26  3:24   ` David Ahern
2020-02-26  3:29     ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26  3:34       ` David Ahern
2020-02-26  3:52         ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26  4:35           ` David Ahern
2020-02-26  5:51             ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26  8:19     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-26  8:23       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26  8:34         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-26  8:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26  9:02             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-26  9:32               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 15:58           ` David Ahern
2020-02-26 16:21             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-26 17:08             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26 21:31               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2020-02-27  3:27           ` David Ahern
2020-02-27 10:19             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-27 10:41               ` Magnus Karlsson
2020-09-28  3:13                 ` David Ahern
2020-09-28 14:25                   ` Magnus Karlsson
2020-09-29  2:44                     ` David Ahern
2020-02-26  6:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26  7:28     ` Jason Wang
2020-02-26  8:21       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-02-26  6:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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