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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Joe Stringer <joe@wand.net.nz>, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Joe Stringer <joe@cilium.io>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	mtk.manpages@gmail.com, ast@kernel.org, brianvv@google.com,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, daniel@zonque.org,
	john.fastabend@gmail.com, ppenkov@google.com,
	quentin@isovalent.com, sean@mess.org, yhs@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 00/17] Improve BPF syscall command documentation
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 14:55:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r1len6hi.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210217010821.1810741-1-joe@wand.net.nz>

Joe Stringer <joe@wand.net.nz> writes:

> From: Joe Stringer <joe@cilium.io>
>
> The state of bpf(2) manual pages today is not exactly ideal. For the
> most part, it was written several years ago and has not kept up with the
> pace of development in the kernel tree. For instance, out of a total of
> ~35 commands to the BPF syscall available today, when I pull the
> kernel-man-pages tree today I find just 6 documented commands: The very
> basics of map interaction and program load.

Yes indeed! Thank you for tackling this! :)

> In contrast, looking at bpf-helpers(7), I am able today to run one
> command[0] to fetch API documentation of the very latest eBPF helpers
> that have been added to the kernel. This documentation is up to date
> because kernel maintainers enforce documenting the APIs as part of
> the feature submission process. As far as I can tell, we rely on manual
> synchronization from the kernel tree to the kernel-man-pages tree to
> distribute these more widely, so all locations may not be completely up
> to date. That said, the documentation does in fact exist in the first
> place which is a major initial hurdle to overcome.
>
> Given the relative success of the process around bpf-helpers(7) to
> encourage developers to document their user-facing changes, in this
> patch series I explore applying this technique to bpf(2) as well.
> Unfortunately, even with bpf(2) being so out-of-date, there is still a
> lot of content to convert over. In particular, I've identified at least
> the following aspects of the bpf syscall which could individually be
> generated from separate documentation in the header:
> * BPF syscall commands
> * BPF map types
> * BPF program types
> * BPF attachment points

Does this also include program subtypes (AKA expected_attach_type?)

> Rather than tackle everything at once, I have focused in this series on
> the syscall commands, "enum bpf_cmd". This series is structured to first
> import what useful descriptions there are from the kernel-man-pages
> tree, then piece-by-piece document a few of the syscalls in more detail
> in cases where I could find useful documentation from the git tree or
> from a casual read of the code. Not all documentation is comprehensive
> at this point, but a basis is provided with examples that can be further
> enhanced with subsequent follow-up patches. Note, the series in its
> current state only includes documentation around the syscall commands
> themselves, so in the short term it doesn't allow us to automate bpf(2)
> generation; Only one section of the man page could be replaced. Though
> if there is appetite for this approach, this should be trivial to
> improve on, even if just by importing the remaining static text from the
> kernel-man-pages tree.
>
> Following that, the series enhances the python scripting around parsing
> the descriptions from the header files and generating dedicated
> ReStructured Text and troff output. Finally, to expose the new text and
> reduce the likelihood of having it get out of date or break the docs
> parser, it is added to the selftests and exposed through the kernel
> documentation web pages.
>
> At this point I'd like to put this out for comments. In my mind, the
> ideal eventuation of this work would be to extend kernel UAPI headers
> such that each of the categories I had listed above (commands, maps,
> progs, hooks) have dedicated documentation in the kernel tree, and that
> developers must update the comments in the headers to document the APIs
> prior to patch acceptance, and that we could auto-generate the latest
> version of the bpf(2) manual pages based on a few static description
> sections combined with the dynamically-generated output from the header.

I like the approach, and I don't think it's too onerous to require
updates to the documentation everywhere like we (as you note) already do
for helpers.

So with that, please feel free to add my enthusiastic:

Acked-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-17 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-17  1:08 [PATCH bpf-next 00/17] Improve BPF syscall command documentation Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 01/17] bpf: Import syscall arg documentation Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 02/17] bpf: Add minimal bpf() command documentation Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 03/17] bpf: Document BPF_F_LOCK in syscall commands Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 04/17] bpf: Document BPF_PROG_PIN syscall command Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 05/17] bpf: Document BPF_PROG_ATTACH " Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 06/17] bpf: Document BPF_PROG_TEST_RUN " Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 07/17] bpf: Document BPF_PROG_QUERY " Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 08/17] bpf: Document BPF_MAP_*_BATCH syscall commands Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 09/17] scripts/bpf: Rename bpf_helpers_doc.py -> bpf_doc.py Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 10/17] scripts/bpf: Abstract eBPF API target parameter Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 11/17] scripts/bpf: Add syscall commands printer Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 12/17] tools/bpf: Rename Makefile.{helpers,docs} Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 13/17] tools/bpf: Templatize man page generation Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 14/17] tools/bpf: Build bpf-sycall.2 in Makefile.docs Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 15/17] selftests/bpf: Add docs target Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 16/17] docs/bpf: Add bpf() syscall command reference Joe Stringer
2021-02-17  1:08 ` [PATCH bpf-next 17/17] tools: Sync uapi bpf.h header with latest changes Joe Stringer
2021-02-17 13:55 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2021-02-18  4:08   ` [PATCH bpf-next 00/17] Improve BPF syscall command documentation Joe Stringer
2021-02-18 11:33     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-02-17 17:32 ` Jonathan Corbet
2021-02-18  4:22   ` Joe Stringer
2021-02-18 19:26     ` Jonathan Corbet
2021-02-18 21:53       ` Joe Stringer

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