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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, guro@fb.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, tj@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next] libbpf: Print hint about ulimit when getting permission denied error
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2019 17:11:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9qg8d4a.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191216160002.vytwcpremx2e7ae3@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 04:53:36PM +0100, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 02:52:30PM +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>> > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 13:40:31 +0100
>> > Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > Probably the single most common error newcomers to XDP are stumped by is
>> > > the 'permission denied' error they get when trying to load their program
>> > > and 'ulimit -r' is set too low. For examples, see [0], [1].
>> > > 
>> > > Since the error code is UAPI, we can't change that. Instead, this patch
>> > > adds a few heuristics in libbpf and outputs an additional hint if they are
>> > > met: If an EPERM is returned on map create or program load, and geteuid()
>> > > shows we are root, and the current RLIMIT_MEMLOCK is not infinity, we
>> > > output a hint about raising 'ulimit -r' as an additional log line.
>> > > 
>> > > [0] https://marc.info/?l=xdp-newbies&m=157043612505624&w=2
>> > > [1] https://github.com/xdp-project/xdp-tutorial/issues/86
>> > > 
>> > > Signed-off-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com>
>> > 
>> > Acked-by: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
>> > 
>> > This is the top #1 issue users hit again-and-again, too bad we cannot
>> > change the return code as it is UAPI now.  Thanks for taking care of
>> > this mitigation.
>> 
>> It's an annoying error that comes up very often, agree, and tooling then
>> sets it to a high value / inf anyway as next step if it has the rights
>> to do so. Probably time to revisit the idea that if the user has the same
>> rights as being able to set setrlimit() anyway, we should just not account
>> for it ... incomplete hack:
>
> We cannot drop it quite yet.
> There are services that run under root that are relying on this rlimit
> to prevent other root services from consuming too much memory.

How do they do that? Set a pre-defined limit and rely on the other
services not calling setrlimit()? There's no way to read the current
value of how much memory is locked either (is there?), so for multiple
daemons there's a central policy thing that does
SUM(requirement_per_daemon)?

> We need memcg based alternative first before we can remove this limit.
> Otherwise users have no way to restrict.

Yeah, something cg-based would make a lot of sense here (and also
presumably make it possible to read out the current value, right?).

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-16 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-16 12:40 [PATCH bpf-next] libbpf: Print hint about ulimit when getting permission denied error Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-16 13:52 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2019-12-16 15:53   ` Daniel Borkmann
2019-12-16 16:00     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-12-16 16:11       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2019-12-16 16:08     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-16 16:51 ` Yonghong Song
2019-12-16 18:00   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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